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I've read the card only costs around $100 to make. That's plenty of margin especially if they're selling tens of thousands of them...
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I've read the card only costs around $100 to make. That's plenty of margin especially if they're selling tens of thousands of them...

$100 to make.

$99 to split between AMD, the AIB vendor and the retailer.

Hopefully AMD gets the majority of that.
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If Nvidia was concerned more about market share, they would have led off the Pascal generation with the 1060 not put it 3rd in release.

And you do realize all the leaks we've seen already are very dubious or outright fake right? Such as the fake graph from videocardz?

Releasing the Gxx04 based products first has always been the strategy that has given much success for Nvidia since Kepler. While I don't claim to know the exact reasons for them doing that, these tend to be Nvidia's highest profile launch events and has definitely worked well since their market share increased significantly over these past few generations. Seems like Nvidia knew that the GP104 would be quite fast and launched the 1080 and 1070 ahead and positioned these cards as their halo products for the time being until GP102 is ready and has had the effect of raising expectations for this new generation of GPUs and fabrication nodes. This resulted in also raising expectations and hype for the RX 480 as evidenced by the vocal disappointment of its efficiency and positioning against the 970 rather than the expected 980.

I'm speculating that the 1060 is ready and purposely held back for launch a bit later to wait and see just how the RX 480 would turn out so Nvidia may finalize the clocks and performance targets of the 1060 for an immediate counter. If that is indeed the case, that would mean that Nvidia is concerned about AMD's intentions to cut into their mainstream market share and to mitigate the impact of the RX480. We shall see if the leak about the July 7 launch is for real. The only time you could really say that Nvidia is not concerned about giving up mainstream market share to the competitor would be if the 1060 is launched much later allowing AMD the momentum to sell as many Polaris cards as they could make since they are the only game in town at that price point right now.

With regards to the other leaks, while the performance graph may very well be too good to be true, the 1st leaked photo of the reference design usually turns out to be true as we have seen in past launches.
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I'm speculating that the 1060 is ready and purposely held back for launch a bit later to wait and see just how the RX 480 would turn out so Nvidia may finalize the clocks and performance targets of the 1060 for an immediate counter. If that is indeed the case, that would mean that Nvidia is concerned about AMD's intentions to cut into their mainstream market share and to mitigate the impact of the RX480.

That sounds like a pretty stupid tactic, why hold back a product that is ready and that they have stocks of?

It makes zero sense to let AMD sell thousands of cards if they are concerned about their intentions to cut into their mainstream market share.

This sounds like wishful thinking of someone who wants Nvidia to succeed in that market segment.

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We shall see a paper launch on July 7 followed by gouged prices for real.

FTFY
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That sounds like a pretty stupid tactic, why hold back a product that is ready and that they have stocks of?

It makes zero sense to let AMD sell thousands of cards if they are concerned about their intentions to cut into their mainstream market share.

Short term thinking.
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This sounds like wishful thinking of someone who wants Nvidia to succeed in that market segment.

I could say the same thing about you but with AMD instead considering your attitude.
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Short term thinking.
I could say the same thing about you but with AMD instead considering your attitude.

So launch the high end that has low stocks and no competition in the segment, and hold back a card that has high stocks and competition in the segment.

Logic

lachen.gif

You could say it about me but it would be garbage as I'm basing my opinion on current facts not some illusion. The 1060 magically 'appeared' after the successful launch of Polaris.

If the card was ready 1060's specs, benchmarks etc would've leaked just before the Polaris launch to derail it. That's called logic.

Thought you had me blocked anyway? rolleyes.gif
Edited by Waitng4realGPU - 7/2/16 at 10:02pm
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So launch the high end that has low stocks and no competition in the segment, and hold back a card that has high stocks and competition in the segment.

Logic

lachen.gif

You could say it about me but it would be garbage as I'm basing my opinion on current facts not some illusion. The 1060 magically 'appeared' after the successful launch of Polaris.

If the card was ready 1060's specs, benchmarks etc would've leaked just before the Polaris launch to derail it. That's called logic.

Thought you had me blocked anyway? rolleyes.gif

Ever heard of the halo effect concept?

Like I said, I was speculating and I did mention that maybe the clocks and pricing haven't been finalized as is normally the case. We'll know for sure in the weeks to come.

Yep, I inadvertently clicked unhide. While you're arguments are fine, going by your posts since the RX 480 launch, it's your personal insults that show your true character and your general bitterness that AMD did not come out with an undisputed winner.

Thanks for reminding me. I'll be more careful clicking that unhide button. You sir are not worth my time.
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We have to face the facts here that Nvidia really is Goliath and AMD is David in the video card segment. They can pretty much dictate whatever they want right now from their ivory tower. It just is what it is. As I have said before, I wouldn't be at all surprised if Nvidia was purposely allowing AMD to gain a little bit of marketshare back in the mainstream segment just so they don't get too monopolistic. These things tend to go in cycles though so who knows where we will be in a year or two?

The fact is AMD has released a really good card in the budget sector with the 480 and a lot of people are going to be very happy with it. It's not the groundbreaking card I was hoping for but then again we have only seen reference so far.
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To be fair, when 980 Ti launched the reference model was well-received but didn't have its cult status now as a legendary overclocker. In fact I remember some of the earliest comments lamented the fact they didn't overclock as well as GM204 cards.

Then AIB 980 Ti's got released and boy did they take the enthusiast segment by storm. Now I'm NOT saying AIB 480s will do what AIB 980 Ti's did, but I think it's fair to reserve final judgement until we have the full picture of what P10 can and can't do.
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$100 to make.

$99 to split between AMD, the AIB vendor and the retailer.

Hopefully AMD gets the majority of that.
AMD doesn't let their exclusive vendors like Sapphire and XFX earn much releasing one low-end/mid-range card in the whole 2016.
Wish that made Sapphire partner with Nvidia, I'd trade my 1080 FE for Nitro
Edited by Klocek001 - 7/2/16 at 11:55pm
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