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Originally Posted by Clocknut View Post

1060 shouldnt be costing anything more than $280, because @ $300 it is getting too close to 1070. 1070 is at $380 for AIB.(not now may be later)

1060 =$280 (performance between 980<-->980Ti?)
1050 =$199 (At RX480)

Darn..... 1050 will be $200 card lol...I am hope is not true.

Stock vs stock I expect 1060 to be around 980 performance.
post #92 of 199
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1060 shouldnt be costing anything more than $280, because @ $300 it is getting too close to 1070. 1070 is at $380 for AIB.(not now may be later)

1060 =$280 (performance between 980<-->980Ti?)
1050 =$199 (At RX480)

Darn..... 1050 will be $200 card lol...I am hope is not true.

A base EVGA GTX 1070 ACX 3.0 is $419.99, and the stated MSRP is $369.99. I don't mind paying the $419.99 or even more for factory OCed editions. I have a feeling the FTW edition will be more costly than the FE at $449.99 due to the SC version costing $439.99. Again, these prices are well over MSRP, but that doesn't matter if people are willing to pay more.
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It's a Machiavellian move, but Nvidia has been very savvy when it comes to their business and some of their moves seem more aimed at hurting AMD than making profit.

Nvidia has always been about the profit first and foremost. How do you think they're able to spend so much on R&D that keeps them a step ahead of the competition? I seem to recall JHH saying in one of his keynotes that they spent billions on Pascal. I doubt if AMD could afford to spend as much on Polaris/Vega.
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Just gonna quote myself from another thread:
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You just made me realize one thing: Founders Edition would indeed be too pompous for a card in 1060's segment. So instead of having a Founders Edition, the 1060 3GB edition will be called the Casual Edition. Why Casual Edition? Because it's for all your casual gaming needs, perfect for the budget conscious yet demanding gamer. Pre-order yours today and reserve a copy on launch day!

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Nvidia has always been about the profit first and foremost. How do you think they're able to spend so much on R&D that keeps them a step ahead of the competition? I seem to recall JHH saying in one of his keynotes that they spent billions on Pascal. I doubt if AMD could afford to spend as much on Polaris/Vega.

Exactly, they can't be competitive without the money to do so, it's a catch 22.

For what they've had, they have battled on valiantly through these times.

If Zen is 85-90% of the rumours then it should be pretty good, and my hat will go off to them.
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You missed my point, which is that while nVidia may not do a founders edition for 1060 (and quite frankly they shouldn't), the 6GB 1060 in spirit serves as the founders edition, since 3GB even for 1080p in 2016 is just criminal.

They will be brazen and just call it the douchebag edition and it'll still dominate the market.
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Nvidia has always been about the profit first and foremost. How do you think they're able to spend so much on R&D that keeps them a step ahead of the competition? I seem to recall JHH saying in one of his keynotes that they spent billions on Pascal. I doubt if AMD could afford to spend as much on Polaris/Vega.

How profitable would a discrete gpu monopoly in the long run? How much could u save in r and d cost If you had no competition? Gpu patent licences and forcing consoles to pay whatever u want?

Short term losses for long term rewards.

The discrete gpu industry isnt important enough for the ftc to come in and stop this from happening. As long as it stays on american hands, the usa government would let it happen i think.
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How profitable would a discrete gpu monopoly in the long run? How much could u save in r and d cost If you had no competition? Gpu patent licences and forcing consoles to pay whatever u want?

Short term losses for long term rewards.

The discrete gpu industry isnt important enough for the ftc to come in and stop this from happening. As long as it stays on american hands, the usa government would let it happen i think.

I'm not quite clear as to how my earlier statement implying that Nvidia is more concerned with its profits more than "hurting" AMD relates to the consequences of Nvidia being a monopoly on itself.

That said, it's safe to assume that Nvidia's investments in Pascal R&D includes their other applications like the new GP100 Tesla for the HPC market, automotive technologies such as the DrivePX, deep learning, professional graphics, etc.

Nvidia is always diversifying and exploring new applications for their GPU core competency. If they put all their eggs in one basket, they would have folded a long time ago.
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Stock vs stock I expect 1060 to be around 980 performance.
considering RX480 is right between 970/980.

If 1060 is at 980, it will create a performance gap that is too huge from 1070. I think it will sit just above 980 or Fury nano performance, with 1050 going to complete against RX480
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Stock vs stock I expect 1060 to be around 980 performance.

GTX 970 < GTX 1060 < GTX 980

imho..
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If 1060 is at 980, it will create a performance gap that is too huge from 1070. I think it will sit just above 980 or Fury nano performance
No problem for Nvidia; the gap between the 960 and 970 is huge as well, especially in modern games. In most games it has only 50-66% of the 970 performance.

If the 1060 is just as bad compared to the 1070, AMD will sell a lot of RX480s. The 970 was a relatively affordable alternative to the 960, but this time the 1070 is far too expensive for budget buyers.
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