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post #51 of 108
Law of physics dont lies. For one:


1) Double the amount of cores DOES NOT net u double the performance

2) Double the amount of cores DOES increase the die size by at least 100%

So considering a P10 die at 220mm that is competing with GP104 which is 314mm big. The latter being 80% faster despite only being 42% larger.

Now if V10 comes at 440mm with 4608 cores, it will not be 100% faster, most like 80-90% faster at best case senarios. This bring in a problem when AMD try to push for more performance out. At 440mm, Vega is barely faster than 1080 at 314mm size. And GP102/100 is going to come in with at least 50% more shader that could push performance above 1080 by 40%, and probably comes in size <500mm sq.

This effectively means that Vega successor need to be 660mm (440 x 1.5) to stand any chance against the Titan Pascal / Ti, which we all knows its close to impossible to hit die this big. I have not talk about dollar per die size. That is going to blow the cost of out water, not just NV, but AMD as well.

Simple Maths tell you this is not working out. Especially we all know from past history Nvidia always have a bigger die than AMD, yet AMD always have better perf-per-area on its die. This time when they even lose only advantage, they have almost no chance against Pascal until they redesign their architecture again, which I highly doubt will be revolutionary from Polar -> Vega.
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Disregard.
Edited by GunfighterAK - 6/29/16 at 6:34am
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The power efficiency of this card is terrible. Consumes the same amount a 1070 does but the performance is so much worse.


Thing are not looking good at AMD, and I am not kidding.



Be mentally prepared the Ti to be coming in at $800+ and Titan at 1.2K or even more.
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Thing are not looking good at AMD, and I am not kidding.



Be mentally prepared the Ti to be coming in at $800+ and Titan at 1.2K or even more.

That was going to happen regardless of if the 480 succeeds or not. Welcome to reality dude.
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The power efficiency of this card is terrible. Consumes the same amount a 1070 does but the performance is so much worse.


Thing are not looking good at AMD, and I am not kidding.



Be mentally prepared the Ti to be coming in at $800+ and Titan at 1.2K or even more.

Nobody is forcing people to part with their money other than their... well, I think the saying is evident.

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That was going to happen regardless of if the 480 succeeds or not. Welcome to reality dude.


Not really, its give a good insight on what Vega can give. And when Nvidia smart engineers can estimate how AMD have a hard time catching up, They will drive the price upward further.
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That was going to happen regardless of if the 480 succeeds or not. Welcome to reality dude.


Not really, its give a good insight on what Vega can give. And when Nvidia smart engineers can estimate how AMD have a hard time catching up, They will drive the price upward further.

Who is forcing you to buy? My post above yours is pretty clear on that.

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Who is forcing you to buy? My post above yours is pretty clear on that.

No one is forcing me to buy but it could allow more ppl to get their hand on the higher performing card.
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post #59 of 108
this feels like damage control for the RX480 release lol
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post #60 of 108
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this feels like damage control for the RX480 release lol

...and denial. lol
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