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Which means they're even more susceptible to influences not based on facts but emotions and/or bias.

AMD's biggest issue is they simply don't have the mindshare right now, and they needed nothing less than a perfect launch to even try to get people to change their perception. And this was far from a perfect launch.

At best average joes in this market segment will likely read reviews... Scratch that, they will skim or skip to conclusion section most of the time. And reviews are looking good for this card. I can't see many average joe buyers looking into this card and walking away with a bad impression.

The launch may not be perfect, but staying away from forums like OCN and just reading the reviews and watching videos, things seem quite positive...
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Thats one thing I find interesting. Reviews have been pretty positive while OCN is just crapping all over it.
 
 
It's important to parse the thread to see those who are critical or curious about aspects of the card versus people with naked bias who are just spewing rubbish for the sake of noise. The former has been more prevalent though I won't deny that there has been a hefty serving of the latter.
     
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People here these days do not fall on $200 price point anymore. We have evolved to wasting more money then needed.
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It's a good card for the price, but if AMD had used 16FF, they could of charged a lot more because the card would of been much better.
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It's a good card for the price, but if AMD had used 16FF, they could of charged a lot more because the card would of been much better.

I am pretty sure they have to use GF because of the history thing. Could be wrong though.
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Re bold part: the problem is, people have no problem waiting for nVidia, but trying to get them to wait for AMD is much harder. AMD needs to get AIB 480 cards out the door ASAP so the reviews will look much better, and minimize any disruption 1060 would bring to the scene.

Also I don't blame AMD for hyping (because quite honestly they've said very little), and as I've said this card will serve its intended segment just fine, BUT "this is a huge step forward for AMD" just isn't going to cut the mustard when you have fierce competition.

Also I looked up the efficiency numbers, and
It matters because if P10 is 970 performance at 150W, what kind of TDP would AMD need to reach 1080 performance? How about 1080 Ti performance?

You're one of the few people who have actually made some good posts in this thread, so that comment was never really for you and a select few others.

It is a big step forward, and Nvidia is definitely ahead, but a revision of GCN was never the answer. Smaller budget, less market/mindshare than Nvidia, less behind the scenes pull for developers, and their investment in consoles/DX12 have pretty much solidified a singular track they can take. There is no way AMD will catch up until we see a completely new architecture. The only other option as I previously stated is if 16nm FF @ TSMC can magically allow Vega to clock above and beyond 1500, there is no way they will compete directly with the 1080/1080ti/new Titan.

AMD has comparable or better cards in almost all price brackets if you are willing to forgo power usage, and the fact that people do almost no research or fact finding for themselves seriously bothers me. It paint's a terrible picture for AMD that most of the time isn't true, this is not what a large enthusiast PC site should portrait.
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It's a good card for the price, but if AMD had used 16FF, they could of charged a lot more because the card would of been much better.

There is currently not a single shred of evidence to prove this statement, and there won't be until we see an AMD card built on TSMC 16nm FF
Edited by rv8000 - 6/29/16 at 7:09pm
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People here these days do not fall on $200 price point anymore. We have evolved to wasting more money then needed.

People here... Well the vast majority of the market buys in the sub $300 market segment, and whats the absolute hands down best card in this segment as of right now? Well thats easy, the RX 480 of coarse.
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Thats one thing I find interesting. Reviews have been pretty positive while OCN is just crapping all over it.

How else would they keep getting free samples?
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People here... Well the vast majority of the market buys in the sub $300 market segment, and whats the absolute hands down best card in this segment as of right now? Well thats easy, the RX 480 of coarse.

You are right about the market, problem being most people as you already stated buy from that sub $300 market meaning they already have 970s/290s/290x's/390s/390s etc meaning this is a side grade at best.
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Kind of interesting that most of the reviewers actually like the card.

It's a good card for the price (p/w aside). The problem for us here at OCN is that we were hoping for something that could somehow compete with the 980ti/1070 when overclocked, seeing as how there's a big AMD sized hole in that price/performance segment. Most reviewers probably did not have this preconception, so they appreciate the card for what it is.
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It's a good card for the price, but if AMD had used 16FF, they could of charged a lot more because the card would of been much better.

Nothing better than good old armchair engineering right there.
 
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