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290/290X at below $300 is pretty much the Sandy bridge of GPU. Those beast is going to last quite a while.

AMD screw up launch day performance as always. Had 290X launch day come with the performance it has on 390X now. Kepler wouldnt even stand a chance.

Same as 7970. Luckily the 480 is also GCN so we can expect some increases.

The 7970 competed with the 670 on release and only got better. 280X ends up matching a 780 iirc.
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The xfx I bought has a stock oc @ 1326, hoping to get another 40 mhz out of it to round it out to an even 100 over stock clocks.
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Alright I'lld add it to my playlist and watch it later.

Only thing that made me cringe a little was the software guy from AMD.... Reminded me too much of the marketing kids in University that were wayyyyyy too enthusiastic when doing presentations. Felt like the Wattman demo was going to be an offer that i would only qualify for if i called within the next five minutes. tongue.gif

He didn't talk for too long, though; because Raja is an alpha that needs to howl.
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Only thing that made me cringe a little was the software guy from AMD.... Reminded me too much of the marketing kids in University that were wayyyyyy too enthusiastic when doing presentations. Felt like the Wattman demo was going to be an offer that i would only qualify for if i called within the next five minutes. tongue.gif

He didn't talk for too long, though; because Raja is an alpha that needs to howl.

 

I'm still just sat here expecting the cigar to come out.

     
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I'll humor you and reply even if your attitude is clearly antagonistic and vengeful.

No, I didn't "know more about the TSMC, GloFlo, and the testing of this chip that occurred behind closed doors with different coolers, drivers, and power delivery."

I simply made an educated guess, that you call an uneducated one, because 1) It's AMD 2) the Fury X underperformed and 3) There's been tremendous unwarranted hype and rumors since the card was announced. Surely, it doesn't take much reason (or a rocket scientist) to figure that the card would probably not live up to the rumors. It's really as simple as that.

Of course, it probably helps that I'm a fairly high ranked enthusiast benchmarker on HWBOT that has benched nothing but AMD cards since 2011. At least 10 of them. The majority are GCN. So I have a fairly deep understanding of how these GPUs work, how they overclock and so forth. I'll assume you're capable of finding my profile there, if you're so inclined. Traditionally, AMD cards overclock less than Nvidia, so I figured the rumors about the RX 480 overclocking to crazy levels were probably false. Though, that may change with AIB cards and better power delivery. However, I strongly doubt this will be the case based on my experiences.

Even IF the RX 480 can overclock to the 1500mhz range, and by doing so it pulls ahead of the 390/290, from the benchmarks of it I've seen it will still be less powerful than the 390 at the same clocks. E.g. it may take a RX 480 at 1500mhz to equal a 390/290 at 1200mhz. In which case, the card is basically a failure imo. It needed to be faster than the 390/290, but it isn't, probably because it has less ROPs and TMUs.
I'm not particularly moved by the fact that you've been benchmarking AMD cards since 2011.

And, no, those are not what I'd call criteria for an educated guess. In fact, that "It's AMD" attitude is exactly what resulted in my "antagonistic" response.

Did you know whether it would be produced on GloFlo's, TSMC's, or Samsungs node? No. Did you know the differences between those nodes before the release? No. Do you now? No, no one does. Did you know the die size before release? No. Did you know anything substantial about this release? No, you didn't.

You really summed it up for me. You based your opinion on Fury X's launch and "it's AMD". It doesn't matter if you're right or wrong, those are just bad reasons to hold a strong opinion either way. You have nothing to be sitting here bragging about. All this "I called it" talk is weak, and your "high rank" at HWBOT doesn't change that. Die size, fab process, and provider are just as relevant to the performance of the final product as AMD's ability to design the chip. Architecture performance has been so close between NV and AMD, outside of driver enhancements and proprietary garbage, that those few factors matter more than almost anything else these days.

So, no. I wouldn't say my attitude is any more "antagonistic" than your opinion. Your statements warrant a strong response so I gave you one.
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480 just made 970 useless buy.

And in few weeks time 480 will truly shine.

or get punched in the nose. The 1060 looms.

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seeing how it gains going down in resolution. it isn't the case anymore. just look at gw titles too.
unfortunately, overhead is still there, and it's pretty bad too. see how it's 2% slower than 970 on 4790K/4690K, but 13% slower on i3.





22% slower on i3 3.7GHz (27% comparing min fps)



anyone considering this card for a budget build should probably think twice....
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or get punched in the nose. The 1060 looms.

As I've said in the other thread, doesn't matter how much raw grunt the 1060 has, 3GB vram means it's pretty much DoA, so we should only focus on the 6GB version.
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The knee-jerk from a lot of you is nauseating.
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unfortunately, overhead is still there, and it's pretty bad too. see how it's 2% slower than 970 on 4790K/4690K, but 13% slower on i3.





22% slower on i3 3.7GHz (27% comparing min fps)



anyone considering this card for a budget build should probably think twice....

Ugh thats not good news considering their target of the 83% of people that buy $100-$300 GPU's.... those same people probably aren't rocking high clocked i5's and i7's..........

On the optimistic side, though; this is something that AMD probably has the ability to improve in the future... and it is likely to not matter as much with more and more dx12 titles hitting the stores.
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