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Ugh thats not good news considering their target of the 83% of people that buy $100-$300 GPU's.... those same people probably aren't rocking high clocked i5's and i7's..........

that pefromance drop in Crysis 3 is just awful
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Oh I dont know. Perhaps these are the only drivers AMD will release for rx480. In that cause that would be a true statement. But even so, we have a lot of dx12 and other console ports to look forward to biggrin.gif
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It actually was a pretty good video about how a card like a 480 during the course of 3 years comes to be real, the future of multi gpu, good bourbon for sipping, wattman, and accusition of new company Alg ---something

Sure, but you didn't mention the interesting stuff IMO. tongue.gif
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Could you give me a tl;dw summary of the video? I really don't feel like watching an hour long video right now (but maybe tomorrow or later).


He basically explained that he got back to AMD in 2013 because he knew the gaming/VR etc scene would grow even more. He also said that they've had many to compete against and not just the obvious one which is nVidia. He also mentioned that they've faced a lot of challenges during the time, because they were 2 to 3 years behind schedule, but he was proud over his teams work over the last 9 months.

He most importantly explains that Polaris is a great way to get back up on the sadle, so to speak. Also, it's a way to get some market share back, but it's not all about profit. It is about getting the developers to bring out more content, and that they basically aready are invested (GCN)..

There's much more information, so watch the video when you can.
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Originally Posted by Klocek001 View Post

unfortunately, overhead is still there, and it's pretty bad too. see how it's 2% slower than 970 on 4790K/4690K, but 13% slower on i3.





22% slower on i3 3.7GHz (27% comparing min fps)



anyone considering this card for a budget build should probably think twice....

Those Crysis 3 results seem off:



Here you can see with a 680, there's still a substantial drop on going from i5-3470 to i3-3320. (60 to 36 FPS!)
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Yep, that's bad. as i've said before they have gone backwards on many things instead of going forward. yes they managed to deliver the performance of 64rops of last gen with only 32. but that's not enough.

Nvidia disappointed me by price , and amd disappointed me by tech. good thing i don't game anymore. tongue.gif

now just launch that bloody 1040/50 so i can enjoy 4k videos without ditching 3dvision.
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Why is everyone so laser focused on clockspeed? That's not the end all be all of the card's performance. AMD cards have typically run ~20% lower clockspeeds then their nV bracket competition. They also scale better in performance, but worse in voltage because the architecture and how that speed is tied to everything and not decoupled from other parts of the architecture like nV cards.

If Vega doesn't break 1500, I would be surprised beyond belief, same as if the 1080Ti didn't break 2000 stock. It's going to happen, the difference will be in scaling and longevity.

true, clockspeed isn't everything. I just remember my last card was a 7950 and it scaled incredibly well when it was overclocked especially the min frames. I don't really upgrade that often just try to get the most performance out of what I got at a good price range. Looking forward to see what the upcoming AIB's can do though and Vega!
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I had a friend yell at me for picking up a GTX 1070 a week before the RX 480 launch... guess that means I have the last laugh, now.
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Man, Europe has weird prices.

Cheapest GTX970 - 238,85€ for EVGA GeForce GTX 970 SuperClocked ACX 2.0
Cheapest RX480 4GB - 219€ for Sapphire Radeon RX 480
Cheapest RX480 8GB - 269€ HIS Radeon RX 480

50€ for 4GB of RAM this card can hardly utilize....

EDIT: are there any news on when might custom cards show up or is it just Soon ™ ?
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AMD just seems to be stuck - they've invested in so many pointless false starts and long term plans that they just cannot keep up.

Tonga - Backported to 28nm after 20nm crapped out. Regression in efficiency and performance compared to Tahiti while having a bigger die. At least this is true for the 285.
HBM - 2 years too early to make a difference, undoubtedly contributed to making Fiji prohibitively expensive.
DX12 - ACEs in 2012 card. Still waiting to be used mid 2016. Maybe this will eventually pay off, but it came at the cost of DX11 performance for over 4 years and counting.
Fiji - Worthless chip for AMD. Costly, terrible yields/supply, and its competitor was so obviously better it's a joke. They would have been better off scrapping it and just letting Hawaii and Tonga stick it out against Maxwell. From an design standpoint, it's actually quite acceptable/good and HBM is impressive, but not nearly enough.
Global Foundries - Their production of Polaris has been exemplary (miraculous) relatively speaking, but TSMC is so far ahead, at least in performance and efficiency, it's sad.

If any of this really paid off, especially Tonga and DX12, they may have been able to surpass NVIDIA, but NV had the foresight to realize that neither of those things mattered and stuck with proven tech and current needs. All this 'orthogonal' R&D has been worthless and look what they're trying to do with Polaris - backtrack. Color compression, tessellation performance and DX11 were all meant to be addressed by this chip, the one coming out in 2016, when they should have been addressing these things 4 and a half years ago - instead we got DX12 preparedness. They are way too forward thinking. By the time the 7970 beats the 970 consistently, both of those chips will be obsolete.

Of course, it's too little too late. Tessellation performance is still bad, color compression is below Maxwell, and DX11 efficiency is taking baby steps.
Edited by Pyrotagonist - 6/29/16 at 11:12pm
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I had a friend yell at me for picking up a GTX 1070 a week before the RX 480 launch

Your friend did not do his homework.Was never meant to even come close to a 1070.Leave that for a 490!! wink.gif
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