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For reference, my R9 290

1125/1520

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I'm just posting for the 1487mhz overclock it's running at

Bios mod to send more power through 6 pin?

Although just so people don't go nuts, SteamVR is a pretty light test, and I can usually squeeze an extra 20-30 MHz out of my 980 Ti for that test vs actual games.
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Bios mod to send more power through 6 pin?

Although just so people don't go nuts, SteamVR is a pretty light test, and I can usually squeeze an extra 20-30 MHz out of my 980 Ti for that test vs actual games.

Yeah they have the 480 watercooled which is probably helping too. Still somewhat impressive if true.
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AMD just seems to be stuck - they've invested in so many pointless false starts and long term plans that they just cannot keep up.

Tonga - Backported to 28nm after 20nm crapped out. Regression in efficiency and performance compared to Tahiti while having a bigger die. At least this is true for the 285.
HBM - 2 years too early to make a difference, undoubtedly contributed to making Fiji prohibitively expensive.
DX12 - ACEs in 2012 card. Still waiting to be used mid 2016. Maybe this will eventually pay off, but it came at the cost of DX11 performance for over 4 years and counting.
Fiji - Worthless chip for AMD. Costly, terrible yields/supply, and its competitor was so obviously better it's a joke. They would have been better off scrapping it and just letting Hawaii and Tonga stick it out against Maxwell. From an design standpoint, it's actually quite acceptable/good and HBM is impressive, but not nearly enough.
Global Foundries - Their production of Polaris has been exemplary (miraculous) relatively speaking, but TSMC is so far ahead, at least in performance and efficiency, it's sad.

If any of this really paid off, especially Tonga and DX12, they may have been able to surpass NVIDIA, but NV had the foresight to realize that neither of those things mattered and stuck with proven tech and current needs. All this 'orthogonal' R&D has been worthless and look what they're trying to do with Polaris - backtrack. Color compression, tessellation performance and DX11 were all meant to be addressed by this chip, the one coming out in 2016, when they should have been addressing these things 4 and a half years ago - instead we got DX12 preparedness. They are way too forward thinking. By the time the 7970 beats the 970 consistently, both of those chips will be obsolete.

Of course, it's too little too late. Tessellation performance is still bad, color compression is below Maxwell, and DX11 efficiency is taking baby steps.

The RX 480 is the best card on the planet that $200 can buy. Today. All that other stuff is irrelevant. People can't seem to see the forest for the trees. This card was designed to be an amazing $200 card and it is. Comparing it to more expensive EOL cards is bad enough but comparing it to new cards that cost 2-3 times as much $$$ is just ridiculous. And I'm only talking about this supposedly disappointing reference card, the AIB cards are likely to be even better.

It's funny how price to performance all the sudden doesn't matter! "Just buy a $450 1070, it's faster!" -Said nobody ever who only has $200 to spend on a graphics card. rolleyes.gif
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The RX 480 is the best card on the planet that $200 can buy. Today. All that other stuff is irrelevant. People can't seem to see the forest for the trees. This card was designed to be an amazing $200 card and it is. Comparing it to more expensive EOL cards is bad enough but comparing it to new cards that cost 2-3 times as much $$$ is just ridiculous. And I'm only talking about this supposedly disappointing reference card, the AIB cards are likely to be even better.

It's funny how price to performance all the sudden doesn't matter! "Just buy a $450 1070, it's faster!" -Said nobody ever who only has $200 to spend on a graphics card. rolleyes.gif

 

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The RX 480 is the best card on the planet that $200 can buy. Today. All that other stuff is irrelevant. People can't seem to see the forest for the trees. This card was designed to be an amazing $200 card and it is. Comparing it to more expensive EOL cards is bad enough but comparing it to new cards that cost 2-3 times as much $$$ is just ridiculous. And I'm only talking about this supposedly disappointing reference card, the AIB cards are likely to be even better.

It's funny how price to performance all the sudden doesn't matter! "Just buy a $450 1070, it's faster!" -Said nobody ever who only has $200 to spend on a graphics card. rolleyes.gif
Comparing efficiency is absolutely legitimate for one. For two, I'm not discussing the RX 480, I'm discussing Polaris 10 and a bunch of other AMD chips.

Personally, I have no interest in a $200 graphics card that barely beats my current one, not one that's an engineering failure like this one at least. If I were recommending or discussing a product, I would consider those things of course. I'm talking about the chip.

Yes the 480 is a good product, yes it's the best $230 card, but honestly, it barely manages to be. It made it there by the skin of its teeth as far as I'm concerned. That 970 is way too close for comfort. I think the 970 is given a bad rap. It's faster than overclocked 390X when pushed to its limits.

If NV slashed 970 prices to $200, that's an RX 480 killer instantly. Same efficiency, far more overclocking headroom, aftermarket designs, better idle/multi-monitor/blu-ray power consumption, superior DX11 performance and its power draw doesn't explode when you overclock it either. Honestly, when offered a choice, I know which card I'd pick at $200. God this sucks. What a worthless piece of **** card. July 2016 14nm and it's getting smacked by a cut 28nm card from September 2014 in every metric except perf/mm^2.

2.8x performance per watt compared to 270X, better efficiency in AotS compared to the 1080, 15% IPC improvement. Where? Where is AMD hiding that monster?
Edited by Pyrotagonist - 6/29/16 at 11:43pm
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people who accept the 480 as it is do not understand the situation

AMD is in trouble, they need a jesus video card, this is just a meh.

their stocks will tumble again.

This card is perfectly fine for our 1080P monitors and not bad for $250 card to replace your 6950. in my case the 7950. The issue with our system (if sig is up to date) is our Phenom.redface.gif

This card is about twice as fast as my 7950, which is faster than your 6950.

Vega will replace my 290s.

EDIT: Anyone knows where i can get one of these here in Bankok? Thanks.
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If I've learned anything from enthusiast forums it's that the target is never stationary.

You get soooooooo much more satisfaction out of shooting a moving target though. biggrin.gif
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This thread is one of the few reasons why I hang back and wait for the smoke to clear.

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