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1. The 200$ has not been reviewed. The 230$ one has. So if you have 200$ to spare only, you don't know the performance you will get.
And not even that. It's 269€ over here, for the reference cooler. But sure, everyone, let's keep ignoring the 2nd largest market and pretend it's $199 card doh.gif
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Someone on another forum apparently has their 480 running at nearly 1.5GHz with a CLC mounted onto the card, here's a Valley result.
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Either way, the thing is: I don't care about a $300 card (where i live) that needs a $100 PSU to go with it (where i live, once again).

So as mainstream user budget-wise... thumbs down.
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Originally Posted by SpeedyVT View Post

3.5 issue isn't overblown. All new games that break the 3.5 barrier can suddenly cause a loss of 30% in frames like with Mirror's Edge 2. I have a feeling this card is entirely for DX12 as DX12 benchmarks were pretty darn good. Not 390 good, but let's understand it's got a godly 512 bit memory controller.

It's the card that SHOULD beat 390 on all metrics available. Better geometry throughput, pretty much exact effective bandwidth (at least Charlie claims AMD claims it has better effective bandwidth than 290X), better raw compute, even better Dx12 support or something.

It does not in Dx12, and that's freaking puzzling.
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Originally Posted by Majin SSJ Eric View Post

Haha, and yet still nothing is better at its price and you know it. Whether you like it or not, this card is going to fly off the shelves as people realize how much performance they are getting for two bills and that nothing else even comes close. Meanwhile AMD will happily take all their money while they work on the chips that are actually designed to be impressive in the higher tier brackets...

Well, Europe has something to say about that.
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3.5GB issue is way overblown in practical terms. I agree it's deception, but it doesn't matter right now. That's more than enough VRAM for 1080p.

Here's what the 970 has going for it:
-Its comparable to an overclocked 390X if not faster. It's a faster chip than Polaris 10.
-It consumes a reasonable amount of power when overclocked and is far ahead of Polaris's efficiency in that regard.
-It's made on the ridiculously mature 28nm process and has no supply issues.

It's not overblown. Dying Light and DOOM with ultra nightmare settings can already go over 3.5GB even at 1080p, and vram requirements are just going to keep bloating if PC "optimization" in the last few years are any indication. Raw grunt is useless if you don't have the buffer to back it up.

Also, a 970 overclocked to 980 level will consume 180-200W at load, so not exactly sipping power. No argument on the supply issue. But keep in mind 970 is already maxed out, and 480 has just started. I'm also going to reserve full judgement until we see what AIB 480 cards can do.
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Two things you are forcefully for some reason ignoring (or mislead):

1. The 200$ has not been reviewed. The 230$ one has. So if you have 200$ to spare only, you don't know the performance you will get.
2. The AIB 480s are rumoured to be 300$ cards. And they start to fall on the 1070 territory, which is not 2-3 times as much $$$, and claiming 2-3 times is just ridiculous when you are talking about a 300$ vs 400$ (math is hard sometimes).

Once the 10 series stock start to become more stable, prices will normalise and the AIB 480s will start to get harder competition. From the 1060 as well as it is soon to come.

1070 Territory? Weird because I just bought the cheapest possible 1070 and it costed me 450$.

Also the difference between a 4GB 480 and 8GB 480 is, well... VRAM, and the frequencies at which these modules work, they're basically the same memory so the 4GB version should clock to the same speed of the 8GB version and you'd essentially have no other difference between these two cards.

Also AIBs for the 199$ RX 480 are unlikely to go past 239$, I can see 269$ for the 8GB version, 299$ should be some crazy/stupid Lightning-Esque card.
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Originally Posted by Loladinas View Post

And not even that. It's 269€ over here, for the reference cooler. But sure, everyone, let's keep ignoring the 2nd largest market and pretend it's $199 card doh.gif

Get the 1070 for 380€ and stop the whining.

Might still be out of stock, though.redface.gif
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It's interesting being accused of being an NVIDIA fanboy when nearly all my posts up until have been cautiously optimistic about the 480, plus I own an R9 290, so I have credentials in that regard.

What I'm pointing out is the truth. The RX 480 overclocks by 5%, and it's power consumption at that level is awful. The 970 can be overclocked to win against a stock 980 fairly routinely, and indeed against an overclocked aftermarket 390X.

Direct your eyes to this review: http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/xfx_r9_390x/

They test the 390X overclocked against a plethora of other overclocked cards. The 970 wins almost every scenario.

Look at how weak the 480 is: http://www.anandtech.com/show/10446/the-amd-radeon-rx-480-preview/4

In nearly every game that AT tested, it lost to a stock 970, sometimes pretty badly. 5% overclocking headroom.

The 970 is faster and more efficient than this card. Even the reference version is likely faster. The reference 970 was not power and heat choked like the 1070.

The only defense I seem to be getting is being called a tool, a fanboy, some anecdotal evidence and fortune telling about the 970 being gimped in the future. Can anyone bring something stronger than that?
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Finally a decent option to replace my 7950 that won't kill my wallet and allow me to adopt freesync. When it's time.
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Someone on another forum apparently has their 480 running at nearly 1.5GHz with a CLC mounted onto the card, here's a Valley result.
Get us some links! Plus that guys CPU looks to be bottling the benchmark.
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It's not overblown. Dying Light and DOOM with ultra nightmare settings can already go over 3.5GB even at 1080p, and vram requirements are just going to keep bloating if PC "optimization" in the last few years are any indication. Raw grunt is useless if you don't have the buffer to back it up.

Also, a 970 overclocked to 980 level will consume 180-200W at load, so not exactly sipping power. No argument on the supply issue. But keep in mind 970 is already maxed out, and 480 has just started. I'm also going to reserve full judgement until we see what AIB 480 cards can do.
Pointless e-peen settings that have no visual effect. Marketing settings like Hyper in Mirror's Edge to sell 1080s. The discerning gamer doesn't bother with such foolishness. Honestly, lots of reviews have shown the 2GB has been fine for most games in 2015.

180-200W is not sipping power, but OC'ed 480s gulp it down because of GCN's design.

The AIB argument is fair. But I am no longer at all optimistic.

I am not lying when I say I wanted this card to be awesome like iLeakStuff and others are. I know you won't believe me, but it is absolutely true.

It just is not awesome. As an enthusiast I do not like that one bit. I can't make this card awesome, and I can't pretend to be happy with it. I hope it flies off the shelves, I still want AMD to build a kickass Vega card. I will buy a kickass Vega based card. It doesn't change how much AMD has lied and exaggerated about this one; there are my desires and then there's what's true.
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