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Pointless e-peen settings that have no visual effect. Marketing settings like Hyper in Mirror's Edge to sell 1080s. The discerning gamer doesn't bother with such foolishness.

180-200W is not sipping power, but OC'ed 480s gulp it down because of GCN's design.

The AIB argument is fair. But I am no longer at all optimistic.

I am not lying when I say I wanted this card to be awesome like iLeakStuff and others are. I know you won't believe me, but it is absolutely true.

It just is not awesome. As an enthusiast I do not like that one bit. I can't make this card awesome, and I can't pretend to be happy with it. I hope it flies off the shelves, I still want AMD to build a kickass Vega card. I will buy a kickass Vega based card. It doesn't change how much AMD has lied and exaggerated about this card.

Dude seriously? doh.gif That's an entirely relevant point when trying to sell the 970 over the 480. One is already on its way out, one will stay relevant for (much) longer.

AMD barely said anything about this card, and I certainly don't think there's anything they "lied" about the card. Exaggerated on the per/watt improvements yes, but no outright lies like the Fury X overclocker's dream. If you're referring to the hype that 480 would overclock to stock 980 Ti or even 1070 (lol) levels, well you can blame clickbait rumor sites and the people who believed them and hyped them like it was the absolute truth.
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$239 becomes 269€. $450 becomes €470. I'm not sure how's your math, but there's something fishy about this. I guess AMD just doesn't care for the 2nd largest market, huh?
how is that an amd problem?
companies set a global suggested price and when the card lefts the factory its out of their hand to do something about the price...they cant control it imagine how much they need to cut it down in new zealand in order to be relevant... almost 230 bucks practicly giving it free
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Originally Posted by GorillaSceptre View Post

People are forgetting how much harder these small chips are to cool.. The same is true for the 1070 and 1080.

Whoever is still trying to recommend 970's above this must have an agenda.. We're looking at day-one drivers on a reference cooler with a single six pin, and it's still getting close to the 390X and 980..

Have some perspective, it costs $199.. Usually i'm not in the "wait for AIB" camp, but in this case you have to be a fool not to if you want more performance. If you don't want more performance than it offers, then you still have a card without equal at it's price range.
I recommend a 970 against it at the same price, at this moment. Absolutely.

Maybe this review has an agenda, but in their suite, it's OC'ed 390X vs OC'ed 970, and there is not a single win for 390X at 1080p or 1440p. None of us can deny that the 970 is one powerful card.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/xfx_r9_390x/


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So would you also recommend a 980 Ti against the 1070 if both were at the same price then?
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Originally Posted by Loladinas View Post

$239 becomes 269€. $450 becomes €470. I'm not sure how's your math, but there's something fishy about this. I guess AMD just doesn't care for the 2nd largest market, huh?
$239 becomes 256€, they're selling for 269€ and that's up to the retailers and not AMD.
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how is that an amd problem?
companies set a global suggested price and when the card lefts the factory its out of their hand to do something about the price...they cant control it imagine how much they need to cut it down in new zealand in order to be relevant... almost 230 bucks practicly giving it free
It's an AMD problem because that makes their card less attractive in regards to p/p. How is that a difficult concept to grasp? It being priced $199 in US has absolutely no effect to anyone buying it outside of US.
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I recommend a 970 against it at the same price, at this moment. Absolutely.

Maybe this review has an agenda, but in their suite, it's OC'ed 390X vs OC'ed 970, and there is not a single win for 390X at 1080p or 1440p. None of us can deny that the 970 is one powerful card.

http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/xfx_r9_390x/


are you seriously posting a battlefield 3 bench on 2016?

can you find a half life 1 bench to post?

THATS why techpowerup needs not to be taken seriously
using bf3 wow and wotanks as a relevant benchmark on 2016 is just beyond stupidity
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Dude seriously? doh.gif That's an entirely relevant point when trying to sell the 970 over the 480. One is already on its way out, one will stay relevant for (much) longer.

AMD barely said anything about this card, and I certainly don't think there's anything they "lied" about the card. Exaggerated on the per/watt improvements yes, but no outright lies like the Fury X overclocker's dream. If you're referring to the hype that 480 would overclock to stock 980 Ti or even 1070 (lol) levels, well you can blame clickbait rumor sites and the people who believed them and hyped them like it was the absolute truth.

Polaris RX 480 have awful efficiency, AMD didn't lied, AMD used the RX 470 numbers for their efficiency claims for Polaris which seems to be a way more efficient card.

Polaris seem to be an architecture aimed to the mobile market, as you increase performance with more cores and frequencies you lose its main advantage, efficiency.

I think we will see that the RX 470 is a better card overall than the 480. I really hope that Polaris was designed with RX 460/470 performance in mind, and that the RX 480 is just AMD stretching this architecture as much as they can for performance numbers, greatly sacrificing efficiency.

It's scary to think that a 970 on 28nm have roughly the same efficiency as Polaris on 14nm, main reason why I just bought a GTX 1070 for my 2ndary RIG.

Hopefully the RX 480 efficiency (Or lack of) is only a side effect of having a low end architecture being stretched out to a performance level that it was never intended to be in, and that with VEGA efficiency is set back on track.
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So lets put a heavily overclocked aftermarket 970 against the others in BF3 and call it a win.. rolleyes.gif

That 970 is beating a 980 too if you didn't notice.. They're all easily over 100 fps anyway so I'm not sure what you're trying to say.. The 970 is going to get demolished in newer titles, DX12 ones in particular.

Keep recommending a 970, i just feel sorry for whoever believes you.
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Originally Posted by magnek View Post

Dude seriously? doh.gif That's an entirely relevant point when trying to sell the 970 over the 480. One is already on its way out, one will stay relevant for (much) longer.

AMD barely said anything about this card, and I certainly don't think there's anything they "lied" about the card. Exaggerated on the per/watt improvements yes, but no outright lies like the Fury X overclocker's dream. If you're referring to the hype that 480 would overclock to stock 980 Ti or even 1070 (lol) levels, well you can blame clickbait rumor sites and the people who believed them and hyped them like it was the absolute truth.
Overclocker's dream is less of lie than this slide turned out to be:



It's explicitly stated that the RX 480 vs the R9 270X is the basis for their claim of Polaris 10's 2.8X performance per watt. Instead, we got 1.42X.

"Overclocker's dream" is a lie, but vague enough that you can't really call it out.
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