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Originally Posted by cainy1991 View Post

Ahh, no I hadn't seen the design on 1070/80's.

I didn't take much note of the AIB cards as both are way outta my price range lol
the 1080 strix is my next gpu i hope that it doesn't sucks like the 980ti one but for a gpu like 480 the strix cooler will be very usefull smile.gif
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Crossfired my 480's, Thinking about doing a Tri-Fire tonight

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Crossfired my 480's, Thinking about doing a Tri-Fire tonight

You are brave man.
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Sapphire 480 nitro with single 8pin. I'm sold now, for the right price...


I'll be getting this or MSI one if the clocks are high on them.
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You are brave man.

Someones gotta do the crazy work around here
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Someones gotta do the crazy work around here

True. But with the whole PCIE thing?
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I think the AIB cards will come out some time around 15th of July or end of July.
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True. But with the whole PCIE thing?

Im pretty sure his motherboard can handle it.
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hmmm currently sold out on newegg.
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Your judgment about whether or not my opinion is educated is irrelevant, and so is the specifics of how I arrived at my conclusion, because I was still right. Just because my assumptions don't make sense to you, or aren't "in-depth" enough to you, doesn't discredit them or my way of thinking. My conclusion was still mostly accurate.
Open forum. If you don't like when people evaluate your opinions, you shouldn't be here giving them.
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And actually, contrary to your assumptions, I actually did know that it would be produced on a combined GloFlo/Samsung 14nm node. I also knew the die size would be roughly 232mm2, this has been known for some time, surely it was less than 250mm2, and it's obviously a midrange chip with a smaller die. This has been common knowledge for months. Do I know the differences? Does it matter? I was still correct. More importantly, I've stated in other posts that I believe that the weak performance of the card are due to it having less ROPs and TMUs- which I also expected. The Fury X only had 64 ROPs while the 980ti had 96, and on release I knew this was a reason for it's poor performance at 1080p. So, I figured that the RX 480/Polaris would likely have 32 ROPs and probably underperform compared to the 390/290.
Die size has not been "known" for months. It hasn't even been one month. Hexus released an article only two weeks ago, estimating the die size from analyzing a picture.

I'm somewhat annoyed to be sitting here, responding to all the things that I listed as being relevant factors for gauging where this chip might land. I made that list to emphasize just how much wasn't known, and reinforce just how relevant those unknowns were. I also listed them off because your "educated guess" was anemic on the "educated" side and grotesquely over-weight toward the "guess" side. Let's recap:
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No, I didn't "know more about the TSMC, GloFlo, and the testing of this chip that occurred behind closed doors with different coolers, drivers, and power delivery."

I simply made an educated guess, that you call an uneducated one, because 1) It's AMD 2) the Fury X underperformed and 3) There's been tremendous unwarranted hype and rumors since the card was announced. Surely, it doesn't take much reason (or a rocket scientist) to figure that the card would probably not live up to the rumors. It's really as simple as that.
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"It being AMD" is actually a valid reason to be suspicious, I thought everyone knew about Bulldozer at this point rolleyes.gif We also get tons of delays for the 14nm node, the Fury and Fury X were turds, the company itself is failing and so on. Personally, I don't know how you can even hold this against me when I've stated I've used nothing but AMD graphics cards since 2008. I'm certainly an AMD supporter, and not an Nvidia troll or something. I'm not blind to the facts though and the companies' history, so obviously I have caution and am diffident in my expectations.

I don't know how these are "bad reasons", I'm sorry I'm not an electrical engineer at a fabrication facility, christ some people think you can't have an opinion or make statements unless you have a degree in this stuff.
You don't know how those are bad reasons? You don't need to be an electrical engineer to know that you're not an electrical engineer. There were questions heading into this that you clearly took no consideration of and yet here you are, telling everyone that you "called it because AMD and Fury X and Bulldozer!"

It's asinine, and you just keep digging deeper and deeper.
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The point about HWBOT is simple- where's your results? Where's your cred? If you know so much, then do something and prove you're actually good at this- building computers- instead of being full of hot air. I've seen your rigs, they're seriously outdated and they look like crap thumb.gif So good luck on this front.

With that sir, have a good day. You will remain in my blocklist and receive no further responses. smile.gif
And this, I don't even know how to respond to.

My "cred" is that I'm not relying on some Fast and Furious version of PC gaming to make my point. I don't need to point to a case full of neon lights to bolster wild, unfounded assumptions about unreleased chips. I talk about what I know, and what I don't know, and invite meaningful discussion about both. And yes, when I see people making outlandish claims that no credible member of the enthusiast community would otherwise make.. I take issue with that. This all started with you trying to make some kind of "I don't you so" claim of grandeur; as if your criteria for an "educated guess" should hold any weight in the future. God forbid anyone who's new to the PC enthusiast community takes you at your word next time, the way you insist we all should.

You're the lowest bar anyone should ever shoot for, in terms of honest skepticism.
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