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edit: agree that I don't want to see AMD's demise. I see very few people rooting for AMD to fail though.

That's a fair point. I suppose I was being a little sensational myself. My point was toward the level of enthusiasm some folks seem to have that AMD has slipped up or could face long-term repercussions.
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Well the the Pcper article disagrees with you.
So we may over time see some PCIE slots die. Why are you expecting the plastic to fail?

I think you may have misinterpreted that comment. It's saying that the level to which the power draw spiked is not a problem as it was only momentary. In the event the power draw consistently reached that level then damage could follow.
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There is no problem. The Green shills/fanbois trying to drum up any controversy no matter how trivial to bring down the hype of the card. Nothing new. Unless we see a flood of fried boards that is what we are seeing. Green team in full force. The fact that you need a board that is far past its warranty/life to create this 'issue' says volumes on the other sides desparation. I rarely bring up sides, but this is ridiculous. While there are some concerns from neutral people, i believe most of the outcry is obvious trolling.

 

As a few reasonable people have said, with the sales numbers on this card any real issue will become very visible presently. I'll wait until we hear of a veritable black plague of motherboards dying left and right before I call it a 'debacle' as some of our verdant friends are so keen on doing.

 

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That's a fair point. I suppose I was being a little sensational myself. My point was toward the level of enthusiasm some folks seem to have that AMD has slipped up or could face long-term repercussions.
 
Fairly common in enthusiast forums. Most of the AMD 'fanboys' are people that say they're tired of overpaying for Intel/Nvidia and hope AMD can pull off a big win. It's the Nvidia fanboys that seem to have a fascination with burning ants under magnifying lenses or something as they take a perverse joy in the failures of a massive underdog that poses no real threat to their spiritual liege JHH.
     
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I call it a 'debacle' as some of our verdant friends are so keen on doing.

The debacle was launching a product that is severely power limited. If you can undervolt the card and get extra performance then there is definitely something wrong with the product launch.
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8GB RX 480 for $250

R9 390 + Total War: Warhammer for $260

R9 390X + Total War: Warhammer for $310

GTX 980 for $315

Total War: Warhammer resells for around $35 on ebay.

The reference 480 doesn't look very appealing...

Even if non-reference models start at $259, the price cut GTX 970, GTX 980, R9 390, and R9 390X will eat away at sales considering that these cards actually provide better performance overall...

While I agree that 480 reference is no stunner,in my book it rendered every other card south of 350 obsolete. New arch with years of driver improvements and memory make it a better buy than any comparable 28nm card. Crazy used deals aside, there is no reason to buy any card other than 1070-1080-480 right now.
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The debacle was launching a product that is severely power limited. If you can undervolt the card and get extra performance then there is definitely something wrong with the product launch.

 

I don't disagree with that at all. I'm only addressing the idea that in some giddy green goblin's fantasy world 480's are popping motherboards like champagne corks.

     
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The debacle was launching a product that is severely power limited. If you can undervolt the card and get extra performance then there is definitely something wrong with the product launch.

Something is up with these cards, not sure if its drivers, bios or design but there is definitely some power issues. That being said I still like them. I haven't used crossfire since 6XXX and its was smooth as butter yesterday in everything I tried.
 
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While I agree that 480 reference is no stunner,in my book it rendered every other card south of 350 obsolete. New arch with years of driver improvements and memory make it a better buy than any comparable 28nm card. Crazy used deals aside, there is no reason to buy any card other than 1070-1080-480 right now.

It can't match the performance of the 390 or 390X but somehow makes them obsolete even when they are priced within 10% of the RX 480?rolleyes.gif
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I don't disagree with that at all. I'm only addressing the idea that in some giddy green goblin's fantasy world 480's are popping motherboards like champagne corks.
There is always someone out there wanting to see the world burn biggrin.gif
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I don't disagree with that at all. I'm only addressing the idea that in some giddy green goblin's fantasy world 480's are popping motherboards like champagne corks.

Most of those are giddy green strawmen.
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It can't match the performance of the 390 or 390X but somehow makes them obsolete even when they are priced within 10% of the RX 480?rolleyes.gif

I'm so confused by this... if anything this thing is pretty much consistently on par with a 390.. and in cases better. The fact that it just released and has wonky performance issues that can be sorted out there is clearly a lot of potential in this card...

And if I was in the market for a card, no I would not consider a 970, 980 or 290/290x/390/390x at this point over this.

AIB's will be the obvious choice.

Shame about the reference cards... I actually typically prefer blower cards just to dump the heat out and this is the best looking blower card AMD has released IMO. Better power delivery and beefier heatsink would have been nice out of the gate but oh well.
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Something is up with these cards, not sure if its drivers, bios or design but there is definitely some power issues. That being said I still like them. I haven't used crossfire since 6XXX and its was smooth as butter yesterday in everything I tried.

 

That's the thing, they're still good cards, and the AIB's are likely to show more of what they can do. I'll agree to terms like 'debacle' when we're talking about them from a technical or an engineering standpoint, even though I'd say more underwhelming than than enraging or anything. But for day to day use and particularly for the average consumer, none of that matters as much as the almighty perf/$ and these RX 480 hits a decent sweet spot there.

     
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