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Originally Posted by Klocek001 View Post

why do we even have to mention it for the 1000th time, can't people read something once and then just know it for the future ?


980 only 3% faster than 290x @4K





AIB 980 +10% over reference 980.




another +12-15% from overclocking



and we're looking at 25-30% at 4K now (resolutions favors AMD so that you don't complain I'm cherry picking, though I wonder how many ppl run 4K on 980). Doubt 290X can touch that. I had three 290 TriX cards, only one could do 1150MHz stable.
1500MHz on 980 is 30% over the reference clocks, can 290X even come close to that ?

First of all, those charts aren't even from the same time frame and look a good deal older. As the first chart shows a 290x as 16% faster than a 780ti at 4k and the second chart only shows the 290x as 1% faster at 4k? Also the 980 is 3% faster in the first chart and 7% in the older second one. Use some logic here and stop picking out random benchmarks as apples to apples.

Now if you look at your first chart which is clearly the more current of the two (as it includes the titan x, 1070, 1080, etc.) you will see that the 390x is 8% faster than the 980 at 4k.

So, again considering a 390x is literally a 290x with 50mhz more on the core and 1500mhz memory vs 1250mhz memory I'd say even a 290x is again, nipping on the heels of a 980 and sometimes surpassing it.

My reference 290x does 1150 core and 1500mhz memory with only +100mv and slightly higher fan speeds. If I had one of the many much better AIB cards it wouldn't be surprising to be in heavily oc'ed 980 territory at 4k considering the 390x is already a ahead with such a minor clock bump over a 290x. I mean, even a 390x is only 18% behind a 980ti at 4k.

The point most people are missing is this though:
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The point isn't that it can extend it's lead, it's the fact that the 290x stock is competing with a 900 series card where 780 has been left in the dust.

The 290x was meant to compete with the original 780 and Titan... then came the big 780ti... which beat it in most titles by an ok amount. Now it's competing and sometimes surpassing a 980? 290x's are 3 years old in october. I'd say any who bought them got a lot more of their money's worth.

And as far as scaling goes, it's pretty obvious GCN scales far better performance wise clock for clock than a 980. 30% core clock increase on a 980 will not actually result in nearly the performance increase percent as it would on GCN. So regardless of a 290x not hitting 1300mhz (30%) even 15% for them is going to show substantial gains. Look how much is gained adding 50mhz on the core from a 290x and a small memory bump
The 390x is a good deal faster in many titles and that's an easy to achieve oc speed for anyone with a 290x.
Edited by SoloCamo - 7/9/16 at 10:03am
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lol that's 20% on air with no extra voltage.

Considering that you were claiming a 30% OC at 1500 MHz rolleyes.gif
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1500MHz on 980 is 30% over the reference clocks
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Even a good 290 can match a 980 easily wink.gif

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13073390

Hawaii is so strong after 3 years.
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lol that's 20% on air with no extra voltage.
still not satysfying enough for an individual who coincidentally runs four 290X's

Lol. 980 will not do any more. 20% OC. My 290 gets more then 20%. My 290X get 1225MHz OC and much more then 980 in memory going from 5GHz to almost 7GHz.
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Stock one !

When winter is here and this card can do 1400 maybe it will be close

Except if this is not going to me !
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That logic worked so well for Kepler and Maxwell owners.
well Maxwell owns big time (even more so when OCed), so yeah it very much did

Mmm...

Where is the 390X on your lineup? And the FuryX vs 980ti as well. They didn't look like that when the FuryX launched. Sure ain't looking good for Maxwell, and Pascal's only been out for a month. tongue.gif

I said it before, which you ignored, and I'll say it again. 7870 (lol) now beats the 680. 290X now beats the 780ti. FuryX now ties with the 980ti. If the 1060 is even close to 480, it's going to lose within 9 months, and it'll have less VRAM the entire time.
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Only the GPU score matter. Its not effected by the CPU.

I compared my results to a lot of other 970 postings and found that all the ones using i7s especially ones clocked 4.4ghz or higher got north of 11k for their scores, so CPU does help a bit for the overall score. I am of course comparing a 1.5ghz 970 to a 290 @ 1290mhz which is a golden 290 if it can hit that figure. Most are between 1100-1200 and that's considered a good OC on them. Still benchmarks don't tell the whole story, as its the gaming performance that matters.

Between the 290/390 and the 970 they still trade blows here and there i would say, and neither leads the other by huge margins in neutral titles. I'd still prefer my 970 for its better efficiency however redface.gif
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Only the GPU score matter. Its not effected by the CPU.

The CPU does have an effect on the GPU score... Just run the benchmark at reference CPU clocks and then again at your 4.6 GHz overclock. Tell me there is no difference in GPU scores between the two scenarios.

Only difference was the CPU clock speeds:

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/2176301/fs/2176288#
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The CPU does have an effect on the GPU score... Just run the benchmark at reference CPU clocks and then again at your 4.6 GHz overclock. Tell me there is no difference in GPU scores between the two scenarios.

Only difference was the CPU clock speeds:

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/2176301/fs/2176288#

Thats 4 cards. Not even the same thing.
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OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
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Intel Core i7 3770K @ 4.6GHz ASRock Z77E-ITX eVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid AVEXIR Blitz 1.1 16GB DDR3-2400MHz CL10 
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SanDisk Ultra II 960GB Toshiba X300 5TB Corsair H100i GTX eVGA Hybrid Water Cooler  
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4x GentleTyphoon AP-15 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit LG OLED55C7P  Razer BlackWidow Chroma  
PowerCaseMouseMouse Pad
eVGA SuperNOVA 750 G3 Define Nano S Logitech G502 Proteus Core PECHAM Gaming Mouse Pad XX-Large 
AudioAudioAudioAudio
Audioengine D1 DAC Mackie CR Series CR3 Audio-Technica ATH-M50 Sennheiser HD 598 
Audio
Sony XB950BT 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
AMD Phenom II X4 955 @ 4.2GHz ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AMD Radeon HD 7970 3GB @ 1200/1500 2x 4GB G.SKILL Ripjaws X DDR3-1600 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveCooling
OCZ Agility 3 60GB WD Caviar Green 1.5TB 2 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB XSPC Raystorm 
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EK-FC7970 XSPC RS360 Windows 10 Pro 64-Bit Corsair TX750 
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