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Jimmies rustled.
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improvements in most games for both Ti and the Titan

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there goes red bois little mantra about gimping
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Eh my Titans definitely do better now than a few years ago. Haven't seen gimping so much as lack of performance increase on par with Maxwell. To be expected on an older architecture.
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Read the whole graph including driver versions. NV performance goes up just slightly with driver versions.
Yes i did. Sry but i also had nvidia cards and this graph is showing things ive experienced. Lower performance with newer drivers. I dont care if its myth or not. For me its a fact, now i have someone else proving that i wasnt just seeing things. Now i am sure that this sudden lack of performance is not something ive been imagining.
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I'm not sure what you are implying? headscratch.gif

Every modern review that has benchmarks shows the 290x handily beating the 780 Ti and more on par with a 980
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Someone's jimmies have been rustled.
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Not sure whats wrong with it, take it with a grain of salt? Also, I think it would also interesting to see results in new games. Maybe i didn't look hard enough at the chart, but you could argue on AMD's side two points.

1. They had piss poor drivers and made some optimizations which look like "better long term support" and they still have bad driver optimizations?

2. They have improved performance gradually by keeping support up, and you potentially have performance gains coming over long duration of time.

I like AMD but the DX11 driver overhead is real, and way way worse in crossfire. I tend to believe option one more because they are looking for the forest beyond the trees.(dx12)
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Jimmies rustled.

thank you to those of that are paying attention to or interested in my jimmes. biggrin.gif

but the point is if you are trying to look at driver optimizations; you would be better served using several samples over a given time. you'll very likely see peaks and valleys for most any given game/benchmark for both AMD and nVidia.

but hey, don't let science get in the way of spinning an agenda for either side.

carry on.
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thank you to those of that are paying attention to or interested in my jimmes. biggrin.gif

but the point is if you are trying to look at driver optimizations; you would be better served using several samples over a given time. you'll very likely see peaks and valleys for most any given game/benchmark for both AMD and nVidia.

but hey, don't let science get in the way of spinning an agenda for either side.

carry on.

By request, some science.

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/more-evidence-shows-nvidia-gpus-losing-performance-32925136/
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How is a game patch hurting performance the same as a driver hurting performance? That some kind of science you got going on there thumb.gif
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thanks for fulfilling . . . wait i didn't request anything.

however, an editorial ≠ science.
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Science? Science needs to be based on fact.

That video you linked used a benchmark from Fallout 4 patch that was replaced just days after release because it was so bad.

That video, at least on the Fallout 4 part, was based on nothing but speculation. Confirmed by the fact that no other source ever reported the same results.
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Driver updates don't happen in a vacuum. Hawaii performance today is better because of game patches as well as the Crimson updates, which in most cases optimize specific games. In some cases these game updates only occurred after backlash from AMD users.

You guys above-- I don't understand your argument. Are you putting up a straw man that the drivers alone are supposed to be responsible for the AMD improvements over time, and then trying to debunk that by saying it's the game patches that do it?

Because the improvements over time are incontrovertible. Just look at any DX11 bench for the 7970 and 290x from 2013 compared to 2016, for the same title, compared to similar benches for Maxwell / Kepler.
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