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I guess you have way more evidence so hopefully the DX11 overhead issue on Polaris/next gen GCN is fixed. Meanwhile, I just gotta hope that DX12 games come hard and fast because I dont expect AMD to going around fixing it on GCN 1.2 cards or older.
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Originally Posted by NuclearPeace View Post

I guess you have way more evidence so hopefully the DX11 overhead issue on Polaris/next gen GCN is fixed. Meanwhile, I just gotta hope that DX12 games come hard and fast because I dont expect AMD to going around fixing it on GCN 1.2 cards or older.

Personally I don't care if my CPU cores are pegged, if the card is faster. I guess more room on the CPU is more room for other stuff, but if it's all being rendered, I don't see the point. If it means more frames, then peg my cores. Do it. There's gotta be a reason for all this cooling hardware. thumb.gif

If the 480 is slower than the 970 across the board and 30% lighter on the CPU in some games, I'm not sure what conclusions to draw from that other than, "the 480 is slower than a 970 on slow CPUs."
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Sitting here watching people argue about testing an i7 with a 200$ gpu, when I got my i7-3770k on here for 150$, and paired it with a 220$ r9 290
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Here's some gas for the flame food for thought.
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4efemc/if_you_are_using_a_500_series_nvidia_card/

But AMD Drivers sucks!
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Here's some gas for the flame food for thought.
https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/4efemc/if_you_are_using_a_500_series_nvidia_card/

Too close from 320.18.
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I believe the R9 290x came before or at the same time as the Titan and 780Ti came a bit later. Its main competition at the time was indeed the 780 as the 780 Ti and Titan were quite a bit more expensive.

Just as a timeline..

AMD 7970 - December 22, 2011

GeForce GTX 680 - March 22, 2012

GeForce GTX Titan - February 19, 2013

GeForce GTX 780 - May 23, 2013

AMD R9 290x - October 24th, 2013

Geforce 780ti - November 7, 2013

I think the real winner here is the 7970... it's still a very formidable card to this day. Especially considering where it stands in most games compared to a vanilla 780 these days.

Sadly just goes to show how slow GPU progression really has been these past few years... redface.gif
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I wasn't even talking about AMD. But since you've brought it up, they've been doing a great job of both working with game developers for patches and upping driver performance.

My one and only issue is the source that you used as "science."

That video takes a single website result from a beta patch and presents it as evidence that Nvidia is losing performance.

It doesn't mention the fact that the patch was so bad it was replaced almost immediately. Released Friday January 15th and replaced Tuesday 19th.

It also doesn't mention the fact that when the official patch was released on February 1st, all Nvidia performance had been restored and then some.

Was there a followup video explaining that they were wrong or was the video removed? No.

All I'm saying is that if we're going to present something as true, we need more reputable sources than that to do it.

As I said above, my Titans have not lost any performance over time and in fact have gained performance since release (though a driver update alone hasn't increased my performance for a quite a while now). I personally see no evidence of Nvidia "gimping" Kepler performance on my end, just abandoning performance optimizations since Maxwell launched whereas AMD cards like cards like the 290X are still getting performance increases to this day. There is simply no question that AMD cards are better long term prospects than Nvidia ones considering that they don't immediately begin ignoring oprimizations for their architectures the second they release a new one. That said, AMD has used iterations of GCN since late 2011 so it makes sense that GCN cards would continue to see increases as long as they use it as a basis for their architectures. Nvidia, OTOH, wants you to buy a new card every time they release a new series. The flip side of this is that Nvidia cards enjoy better day-one performance than AMD cards, which have to wait over time to reach their ultimate potential.

The TL;DR of this post is that Nvidia is NOT sabotaging performance of their older cards but simply ignoring them so that their performance is pretty much static at this point whereas AMD cards continue to get improvements even generations later. If you keep cards for 3 years or more AMD is the way to go (think of somebody who bought a 780Ti on release which was significantly faster than a 290X at the time but now has a card that is significantly slower).
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any follow up reviews after the power fix?
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