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Originally Posted by Lipos View Post

Cause Asus f*cked up, the temp target for the strix is 65°C @default that's why the card is "way too loud"


https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerbase.de%2F2016-07%2Fasus-radeon-rx-480-strix-test%2F4%2F%23abschnitt_manuelle_lueftersteuerung_ruhe_ohne_nachteile

I see, but overclocking seems really bad either way. Even with temp target 65C / massive RPM it can't even hit 1360 MHz stable?

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/26.html

3% performance gained? That is pretty bad. I hope it's something with the wattman app? Or did AMD max out these chips?

I think the MSI 1060 Gaming gained more than 15% performance after overclocking, which means close to 20% better performance compared to Founders Edition.

Nonetheless, Custom RX 480 4GB is good value, might get my brother one.
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I see, but overclocking seems really bad either way. Even with temp target 65C / massive RPM it can't even hit 1360 MHz stable?

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/26.html

3% performance gained? That is pretty bad. I hope it's something with the wattman app? Or did AMD max out these chips?

I think the MSI 1060 Gaming gained more than 15% performance after overclocking, which means close to 20% better performance compared to Founders Edition.

Nonetheless, Custom RX 480 4GB is good value, might get my brother one.

I think that compared to the 1060 (which have AIB prices similar to 480 AIB prices) the value for performance is still quite a bit better, especially when considering overclocking headroom. None the less, I will still be getting myself a 480 (or whatever AMD comes up with by the time I upgrade)
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Adored takes a lot of the review samples and compiles them, he ends up with an average 5.7% lead to the 1060, throwing out some he considers just inept if you will, like Toms.. Some sites are way more varied than others. Especially when you look at Tom's who had 6 out of 9 titles that were Gameworks titles. He also includes that Doom is most reviews is benched on OpenGL instead of Vulken, which to his defense all the cards have had an increase on vulken not just the 480. Of course the 480 substantially more than say the 1060 or 980 but they did see an increase compared to OpenGL.
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I see, but overclocking seems really bad either way. Even with temp target 65C / massive RPM it can't even hit 1360 MHz stable?

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_480_STRIX_OC/26.html

3% performance gained? That is pretty bad. I hope it's something with the wattman app? Or did AMD max out these chips?

I think the MSI 1060 Gaming gained more than 15% performance after overclocking, which means close to 20% better performance compared to Founders Edition.

Nonetheless, Custom RX 480 4GB is good value, might get my brother one.
you have to increase the PT for more performance, for example MSI increased the PT for the 1060 Gaming cause without it wouldn't hit the OCed boost clock. wink.gif

And the Strix has 3 different modes. "Silent", "Gaming" and "OC".

TPU tested the Strix with "Gaming" (marked in the img below), that's the one out of the box. With OC-Mode you'll gain another ~4% performance.



https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerbase.de%2F2016-07%2Fasus-radeon-rx-480-strix-test%2F2%2F%23abschnitt_taktraten_unter_last

"Max" just means with maximized PT so the Strix can hit the 1330MHz stable



https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerbase.de%2F2016-07%2Fasus-radeon-rx-480-strix-test%2F2%2F%23abschnitt_taktraten_unter_last
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Adored takes a lot of the review samples and compiles them, he ends up with an average 5.7% lead to the 1060, throwing out some he considers just inept if you will, like Toms.. Some sites are way more varied than others. Especially when you look at Tom's who had 6 out of 9 titles that were Gameworks titles. He also includes that Doom is most reviews is benched on OpenGL instead of Vulken, which to his defense all the cards have had an increase on vulken not just the 480. Of course the 480 substantially more than say the 1060 or 980 but they did see an increase compared to OpenGL.

Makes absolutely no sense to throw out results just because it's gameworks considering those are games people play. Throwing out results because it doesn't fit his agenda is a joke.
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Makes absolutely no sense to throw out results just because it's gameworks considering those are games people play. Throwing out results because it doesn't fit his agenda is a joke.

Aside from that, In gameworks titles, one can simply turn off the gameworks features. So leaving out Gameworks titles but leaving something like Hitman in is just not an accurate representation of the actual performance.
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Originally Posted by Exeed Orbit View Post

Listen, if you want to lie to yourself and say that the RX480 is faster in DX11 (Which represents 99% of games out today), go right ahead. I'm buying an RX 480 knowing that it's slower in DX11 (I'm not even on Win10).
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you have to increase the PT for more performance, for example MSI increased the PT for the 1060 Gaming cause without it wouldn't hit the OCed boost clock. wink.gif

And the Strix has 3 different modes. "Silent", "Gaming" and "OC".

TPU tested the Strix with "Gaming" (marked in the img below), that's the one out of the box. With OC-Mode you'll gain another ~4% performance.



https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerbase.de%2F2016-07%2Fasus-radeon-rx-480-strix-test%2F2%2F%23abschnitt_taktraten_unter_last

"Max" just means with maximized PT so the Strix can hit the 1330MHz stable



https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.computerbase.de%2F2016-07%2Fasus-radeon-rx-480-strix-test%2F2%2F%23abschnitt_taktraten_unter_last

Just leave Anno 2205 out and GTX 1060 is slower. Nobody add QB/Forza in the benchmarks...

http://www.golem.de/news/geforce-gtx-1060-vs-radeon-rx-480-das-bringen-direct3d-12-und-vulkan-1607-122214.html
Edited by Themisseble - 7/22/16 at 2:23pm
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Aside from that, In gameworks titles, one can simply turn off the gameworks features. So leaving out Gameworks titles but leaving something like Hitman in is just not an accurate representation of the actual performance.
gameworks titles were developed with help from nvidia to ensure they would run optimally on nvidia hardware. Turn gameworks features off and you still have a game built with nvidia in mind.
Idk why I'm bothering explaining this to someone who thought MSI, Asus, and Gigabyte were nvidia exclusive partners..

edit: Reread in context, point still stands but I agree that you shouldn't remove any titles, gameworks or gaming evolved. Including dx12/Vulcan results as well
Edited by tkenietz - 7/22/16 at 2:32pm
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Makes absolutely no sense to throw out results just because it's gameworks considering those are games people play. Throwing out results because it doesn't fit his agenda is a joke.

He said in the video disregarding Toms the difference was 5.7%. Reviewing with a majority of gameworks titles does leave the view skewed in favor of the 1060. Just as if they published a 1060 review with majority of gaming evolved titles. I share his sentiment on doom as biased as that sounds, considering vulken gave a performance boost across the board. I see your point though. To be honest the review variance is somewhat widespread. Go to one site and the 480 is slightly behind the 1060 go to the next and the 1060 is substantially leading.
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Makes absolutely no sense to throw out results just because it's gameworks considering those are games people play. Throwing out results because it doesn't fit his agenda is a joke.

He threw out the two "outlier" reviews, it made sense to me. Did he throw out all Gameworks games? I do not believe so. He threw THAT specific review out because it showed a clear bias (I thought, at least) toward the Nvidia card. He then threw out the review showing the RX480 beating the GTX 1060 because it was very different from the other reviews. Should RX480 fans be up in arms that he threw that review out as well?
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