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Just to chime in, the msi gamer x seems to be a solid aib 480, I still believe the reference cards with an aftermarket cooling solution are the better buy, though.
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Originally Posted by comagnum View Post

Just to chime in, the msi gamer x seems to be a solid aib 480, I still believe the reference cards with an aftermarket cooling solution are the better buy, though.

IMO... not when they're $250 or lower with promo code! I got mine for $243 a pop, NIB. Well, not the first one... but the three I bought on Monday.

Ofc, I love air cooling, so YMMV.

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For people saying 1060 is the better buy, please are you STILL going to play those old DX11 games again (where 1060 is faster). I'm talking to games like Crysis 3, BF3 and the likes. Yes they might still matter for benchmarks but in practical sense I don't think so.

RX 480 is the better buy here as the trend is towards DX12 and that card would be faster eventually.

what you said is unbelievable. If DX12 isn't bound to just windows 10, I'm sure an extra billion people would love to try it, but at its current state, some people don't want windows 10, some people don't buy new games at full price (wait for steam sales), too little games with DX12 features for people to care.

I just found it funny that you added "in practical sense" in your statement. I mean seriously, do you actually think that you are the majority?

What you said will eventually be right, but now is not the time. DX12 is too far away from widely implemented for you to say that.
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There are two free demo type and 1 full game from Microsoft studios that are dx12 only: Halo 5 Forge, Forza motorsport 6 Apex and Forza Horizon 3.

Horizon 3 actually runs about 50% faster on Pascal and Polaris than it does on Maxwell and Hawaii/Fiji amazingly.

are there any other studios or devs you can use as an example

I don't know, when I read "microsoft studios", all I can think of is windows 10 update spam.
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what you said is unbelievable. If DX12 isn't bound to just windows 10, I'm sure an extra billion people would love to try it, but at its current state, some people don't want windows 10, some people don't buy new games at full price (wait for steam sales), too little games with DX12 features for people to care.

I just found it funny that you added "in practical sense" in your statement. I mean seriously, do you actually think that you are the majority?

What you said will eventually be right, but now is not the time. DX12 is too far away from widely implemented for you to say that.
are there any other studios or devs you can use as an example

I don't know, when I read "microsoft studios", all I can think of is windows 10 update spam.




i don't know, according to steam august 2016 survey, which is a pretty accurate survey to use to measure the gaming community, it seems like gamer's are embracing windows 10. it has the highest market share on steam now with near 50%. it's dethroned windows 7 down to 28% share.
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i don't know, according to steam august 2016 survey, which is a pretty accurate survey to use to measure the gaming community, it seems like gamer's are embracing windows 10. it has the highest market share on steam now with near 50%. it's dethroned windows 7 down to 28% share.

total share of windows 10 is 47.5 + 1.5 = 49%

windows 7 is 28.7 + 5.9 = ~34.5%

I get what you are saying, but it's not just 1 factor, it's all the listed factors (in my post) adding up. The 34.5% of those windows 7 guys are limited to their windows, and not all the 49% of the windows 10 guys care about DX12 more than their money (only new games have DX12 which roughly = full price games)

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My MSI Radeon RX 480 8 GB Gaming X doesn't throttle and stays at 60C with a fan at 2400 RPM during Ethereum mining.

Lol I have no idea what type of load mining does to a GPU or how you have this setup. IF any RX 480 ran at 60c for gamers that card would be all over the internet.
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Originally Posted by VeritronX View Post

There are two free demo type and 1 full game from Microsoft studios that are dx12 only: Halo 5 Forge, Forza motorsport 6 Apex and Forza Horizon 3.

Horizon 3 actually runs about 50% faster on Pascal and Polaris than it does on Maxwell and Hawaii/Fiji amazingly.
I don't play console ports or count trash engines like Forza locked to 30fps and barely doing 60fps on Titan XP etc. The fact that the newer cards run so much faster is a clear sign of MS screwing something up in a major way.
All the decent racing sims are in DX11 and none I know of even announced developing DX12 or Vulkan engine yet, no need to really as they run 100fps+ for years, unlike MS crap.
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Just to chime in, the msi gamer x seems to be a solid aib 480, I still believe the reference cards with an aftermarket cooling solution are the better buy, though.
Only if you can find a second hand cheap enough cooler. I've tried but finding an RX 480 reference at MSRP is an impossible task in central Europe and getting a decent second hand cooler pretty much the same this time due to shipping costs being high and people bidding crazy $ on second hand GPU coolers. Tried for 2 months, still monitoring for a cheap cooler but nothing yet.
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IMO... not when they're $250 or lower with promo code! I got mine for $243 a pop, NIB. Well, not the first one... but the three I bought on Monday.

Ofc, I love air cooling, so YMMV.

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That's nice the RX are popular in cheap electricity USA where the cards are actually sold for decent prices and used for mining purposes. Meanwhile elsewhere AMD cards were a rip off until mid September, about a week ago. Now the same card costs about $290 excluding 21% tax. I'm sure it would be a hit in US if you had to pay $346 incl. tax for it, that's the cheapest found on market here. At the same time 1060 6GB sells custom versions as low as $310 incl. tax, that's about $35+ cheaper, since mid July. Yep 10% cheaper, for 10% more performance, using 15% less power and being available 2 months sooner. The AMD offers are not competitive on all markets, maybe in US but certainly not in central Europe.
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Lol I have no idea what type of load mining does to a GPU or how you have this setup. IF any RX 480 ran at 60c for gamers that card would be all over the internet.
If you stuck it into an open bench and run the fan twice as fast as it does by default that card with the 1060 cooler on it can run sub 70C. Though I doubt it's gonna do pure 60.0C when pushing 100% game load or Firestrike on it. Maybe the 1060 would with fans maxed out to what ever the max is, 3000rpm?
Edited by JackCY - 9/28/16 at 4:29am
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Horizon 3 actually runs about 50% faster on Pascal and Polaris than it does on Maxwell and Hawaii/Fiji amazingly.

Where are you getting this 50% number from? When I look at the Forza Horizon 3 benchmarks I'm seeing like 5-10 fps difference between comparable cards across generations...

ie @4k - 1070 gets 55avg/49min while the 980Ti gets 49avg/44min
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Where are you getting this 50% number from? When I look at the Forza Horizon 3 benchmarks I'm seeing like 5-10 fps difference between comparable cards across generations...

ie @4k - 1070 gets 55avg/49min while the 980Ti gets 49avg/44min
The performance and optimization is horrible:



If you mess up the settings on that crappy engine you can get some crazy results at certain scenes.
Edited by JackCY - 9/28/16 at 5:20am
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Originally Posted by iRUSH View Post

Lol they're chincy aren't they? Man Sapphire is my go-to, but their RX series cards are cheaply made.

On hand I have a 380x 4gb and a Fury. Both Nitro cards and their build quality is miles ahead of their RX480. To be expected on the Fury, but it's clear just how cheap they went when holding its replacement card in hand, the 380x.

I have more to complain about regarding the RX 480 in general as well as that particular model. As I said before, this card in particular would be fine at $199. But then that would throw off their whole RX line.

Save yourself the time of trail and error with this one and skip the RX480 Nitro people. When you've had as many GPUs as I have, you know the difference.
Dang. I was so close to buying the RX 480 Nitro... I still think the RX 480 Nitro is the best looking card in a long time. The only thing that made me skip it is the R9 Fury Nitro at $310. I would never have expected Sapphire to have a card that feels cheap, especially if it looks so good. But then again, they likely were forced to keep the costs down in order to have a card that does not reach the $300 mark.

Miners really killed Polaris...
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