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post #701 of 3674
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http://www.hardware.fr/articles/951-1/amd-radeon-rx-480-8-go-14nm-polaris-test.html

Worst efficiency than Maxwell and Fury, pityful results and bad cooling solution, it's a nightmare.
Seems like Kyle from [H] was totally right, this GPU launch is a massive disappointment.
Raja can smoke cigars, we all know the truth now.

The funny part about that is when maxwell was launching people were saying they didn't care about power to performance etc But here we are years later and it's a big thing and something that was hyped for this card.

I remember the exact threads with the 980 and people were saying it didn't matter that it ran alot cooler/quieter etc
post #702 of 3674
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Thank you for that, seriously lol
    
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and what is the pci-e power connection?

Pci-E Graphics power connection.

Too tired to argue. The ATX spec calls for 18 AWG wire on PEG connections, its in the design spec and its derated just like the rest of the wiring. Not that I can even get to the PCI-SIG PDF's anymore as they all seem to be locked down. What follows are quotes from the full specification from various sources.

PCI-SIG has the following to say...
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A standard height x16 add-in card intended for graphics applications must, at initial power-up, not exceed 25 W of power dissipation, until configured as a high power device, at which time it must not exceed 75 W of power dissipation.
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A x16 graphics card is limited to 75 W. The 75 W maximum can be drawn via the combination of +12V and +3.3V rails, but each rail draw is limited as defined in Table 4-1, and the sum of the draw on the two rails cannot exceed 75 W.
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A PCI Express x16 Graphics 150W-ATX add-in card can draw a maximum of 75W through the standard connector, as specified in PCI Express CEM 1.1. Up to 75W additional power is provided through a 6-pin wire-to-board connector. Therefore, the maximum total power that must be provided to a PCI Express x16 Graphics 150W-ATX add-in card is 150W.

Even by the PCI-SIG spec you are wrong. 150w is defined as the total of 75w(slot)+75w(6P). 225w is 75w(slot) 75w(6P) 75w(6P). 300w spec is 75w(slot) 75w(6P) 150w (8P).

Capabilities do not need to match prescribed limits, it looks like the connectors are derated just as badly as the standard ATX wiring, notice the footnote about rise in temperature over ambient in the image you used as proof. thumb.gif
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Worst efficiency than Maxwell and Fury, pityful results and bad cooling solution, it's a nightmare.

Akin to 290 series launch many years ago before you were probably in control of a keyboard, yet they are still great cards to this day.

Can't say much for the Nvidia cards from back then.

Fury had HBM to reduce power btw so meh.
post #705 of 3674
So nice gpu. So nice price. Sadly not where i live. Here is like 350$ mad.gif
post #706 of 3674
It seems like a great card at its 199$ MSRP. When prices settle and AIB's come out, and the dust has settled, we should all take a breather and have a look at it again.

A lot of people here seem to forget that this is a mainstream card. We're on an enthusiast forum and most members, from my perspective at least, seem to have hoped for buying a low-to-mid end card that can match a 1070's performance (the performance these enthusiasts "need" or "want"), or in other words expecting from a low-to-mid range card to satisfy their higher (high-enthusiast) standard - which simply couldn't have happened, not at this price.

People looking to spend less are obviously going to like this card, as their judgement isn't as polluted as what is being shown here since quite some time now.

Quite frankly, this board is beginning to look like the political landscape of a 3rd world country. =(

Once again, I believe we should all get off our high horse thinking we know what's best for everyone and see the card for what it is, not what we want it to be or what others want us to think it should be. Perspective is everything.

A few things, the reference board is nothing spectacular, but it's nothing too bad either, exactly what you'd expect for a card in this price range. Overclocking seems to yield very good results, makes me hopeful for the after market cards for those of us who want to play around with them. Thermals and power draw suffer quite considerably when the card is pushed outside specifications, with a small die like that cooling can't be an easy feat. I am hoping that with a new revision these issues become less pronounced, and let's not forget we're going to stay on this node for a long while.

I am most interested in how high these can clock though, that is what intrigues me as an enthusiast, because of the possible implications that might have for the bigger chips (clad in AIB's) which I am interested in. A lot of added power draw and temperature, but a <10% overclock netting ~10% pure gaming performance across mins and averages, then that speaks great for those of us who don't care about power draw and can push the cards.
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At least you done have to use a stupid bridge between cards! How Nvidia did'nt work that one out this round is beyone me?
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Is it me, or is the world seemingly against AMD.

from Newegg.
NOTE Orders received from 10:00 a.m. Wednesday, 6/29/16 to midnight Thursday, 6/30/16 won’t be shipped until Friday, 7/1/2016 as we conduct our biannual inventory.
post #709 of 3674
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Most good 980 are 400-450
AIB 480s will cost around 300

So a 980 is 30%-50% more expensive and its not faster even by 20% so what is the problem?

Cheapest 980 is 300 and cheapest 480 is 200 which means even the cheapest 980 is still 50% more expensive than the cheapest 480.

Cheapest 980 will perform as good as the most expensive 480 while costing the same, Problem?

If I was in the 400-450 price point I certainly wouldn't be shopping for a 980. There are also 980Ti's at that price point right now and theoretically 1070's.
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Well the 1080 thread was derailed/trolled pritty hard by a few, it's every forum/thread. Not many can be objective about the things they own/ are invested in.

It has gotten bad though. I had a post about a new benchmark not even a GPU and the red/green nonsense started. There are a loud handful for both sides and both side like to pretend the trolls/fanboys only exist on the other team...
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