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Can still get a used 970 for 200$ or a 480 will probably be $
300(Canada)? The 970 seems to meet or beat the 480
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Originally Posted by SuperZan View Post

It needs some obvious work with the PCIe overdraw but the 380/960 segment sucks a bit less in performance after today which is kind of the point of a new product in that segment.

I think the segment that you speak of has moved a bit. This card is the same price as a GTX 970 now, and they both seem to be very similar in performance as well.

I see it as a strange card. I can't help but wonder why AMD bothered even making a new card that was so close to their existing ones in performance. Seems to me they could have simply doubled the RAM on the 290X and it would have essentially been the same thing. In fact I can't help but wonder why it has 8GB of RAM when it clearly lacks the performance and bandwidth to actually make use of it in high resolutions. 8GB is hardly necessary for 1080p playing.
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My issue with this card is, it makes no sense to buy it. It's a side grade for most people, and even worse, the 1060 will be out relatively soon. If Nvidia ends up pricing the 1060 at $250 or less, it's going to make this card obsolete, as I'm willing to bet it'll destroy the 480 on performance in every aspect. Either way, much smarter to wait a bit, though I'll be super happy if this sells well, Nvidia will need to respond.
post #754 of 3674
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I think the segment that you speak of has moved a bit. This card is the same price as a GTX 970 now, and they both seem to be very similar in performance as well.

I see it as a strange card. I can't help but wonder why AMD bothered even making a new card that was so close to their existing ones in performance. Seems to me they could have simply doubled the RAM on the 290X and it would have essentially been the same thing. In fact I can't help but wonder why it has 8GB of RAM when it clearly lacks the performance and bandwidth to actually make use of it in high resolutions. 8GB is hardly necessary for 1080p playing.

It was a pipe cleaner for a new process at a new fabrication partner.

Also, they only need to make two chips, not 5.
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Thank you for those charts cynical.

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As I said in april, expect 2x performance per watt increase, not 2.5. Both companies don't tell the truth.

But back to performance. This is kind of disappointing as it performs closer to my worst expectations then my optimistic ones. Closer to 390 performance than 390x. With power consumption closer to 150 watts than 100. If people were critical of Nvidia's marketing, they have to be critical here too. AMD obviously framed certain and best case scenario's at earlier presentations. What is clear however is why these products are priced as they are.

I was expecting, the 1070 to be 35-40% faster, not 50%. It's no wonder this thing is priced at 200 for the 4gb and 229 for the 8gb.

The engineering on this card is a big let down in general. Mahigan, is probably going to disappear for a while considering the hype he talked about this card.

The 1080 is 80% faster which is insane. Forget vega, AMD needs the ones that comes after this. It's crazy how much AMD engineering has fallen behind. Two pitcairns smoked the 680. Two rx 480's not so much vs the 1080. Add in how far ahead Nvidia is in regards to performance per watt, and it seems like maxwell architecture conroed AMD.

GCN needs to replaced asap. It's starting to show it's age.
post #757 of 3674
Spain:

Cheapest, slowest, worst GTX970: 299€
All of the 8GB RX480 (no 4GB): 299€

Also considering it's launch day.

480 > 970

where's the problem?
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Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post

As I said in april, expect 2x performance per watt increase, not 2.5. Both companies don't tell the truth.

But back to performance. This is kind of disappointing as it performs closer to my worst expectations then my optimistic ones. Closer to 390 performance than 390x. With power consumption closer to 150 watts than 100. If people were critical of Nvidia's marketing, they have to be critical here too. AMD obviously framed certain and best case scenario's at earlier presentations. What is clear however is why these products are priced as they are.

I was expecting, the 1070 to be 35-40% faster, not 50%. It's no wonder this thing is priced at 200 for the 4gb and 229 for the 8gb.

The engineering on this card is a big let down in general. Mahigan, is probably going to disappear for a while considering the hype he talked about this card.

The 1080 is 80% faster which is insane. Forget vega, AMD needs the ones that comes after this. It's crazy how much AMD engineering has fallen behind. Two pitcairns smoked the 680. Two rx 480's not so much vs the 1080. Add in how far ahead Nvidia is in regards to performance per watt, and it seems like maxwell architecture conroed AMD.

GCN needs to replaced asap. It's starting to show it's age.

RX 460 and 470 will give you 2.5x since they will be clocked lower and have less active units. Just like with Fury, a small clock drop can quickly drop TDP.

It also looks like they are pushing voltages pretty hard to get the most cards past QC. Some have already under volted and dropped wattage by 20%.
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Spain:

Cheapest, slowest, worst GTX970: 299€
All of the 8GB RX480 (no 4GB): 299€

Also considering it's launch day.

480 > 970

where's the problem?

That the 970 was released 2 years ago and people used it for 2 years for gaming etc.

People hoped for more. The RX 480 is no embodiment of 2 years of progress we hoped for.
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lol you do understand that this card is 40% better than 380 right? this is what is suppose to be
we are not talking about 390 level of card here that was suppose to replace an actualy high end card stop twisting everything.......

I'm not twisting anything nor am I trying to. I just pointed out that you could snag a 290x last year or a 970 recently for <$250 US on sale. It doesn't matter what msrp card it's "supposed" to replace when you could often find deals that offer the similar performance and price up to a year ago.
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