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Doubtful, IMO. 3584 shaders Fury (non X) beat the 980. I don't see why a similarly cut Vega chip couldn't do the same to the 1080.
well the 2304 shaders Polaris10 is ~80% slower than 1080

4096/2304 = 77-78%

of course Vega may improve elsewhere, but how much can it really improve .. especially if the 4096 is the biggest Vega and it still has to fight 1080Ti somehow too (1080Ti still having room starting from 314 mm2 upward)


but its all speculation for now
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Wait... why would more VRAM let you play at a higher setting...?

Can't tell if being coy or serious..
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thumb.gif Shouldn't be too hard to do then. Let's see:




Looking at some product images, it's 1 1/4" exactly on my monitor between screw holes. The PCIe connector is 1 15/16". Compared to my 750Ti that I just have lying on my desk, that has a 3 5/16" PCIe connector. Do the math and we get actual measurements that are 71.0% larger than the image. That's 2.138" between screw holes or 54.3mm. Now, if we look at universal waterblock measurements, we see some very similar spacings in existing GPUs. It's pretty typical for a "medium" GPU in any case.

And on a somewhat related note, it looks like the PCB is 7" give or take a bit. Looks good for small, watercooled systems, particularly since the reference board is single slot.

Nono, water is out of the question. The card is going to be in a cage that is literally only two slots of space. IE, there is insulation on the case that is "behind" the card to prevent shorting. The top edge is a MM or two from the "side" of the cage. This is why that system is getting an RX 460. biggrin.gif

The RX 470 would replace my 750 Ti in my Antec 900 system "Infernal Machine" in my signature.
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man i dont know....

I'm sure this has been said in this thread at least 100 times (this being page 84 and all), but these results really disappoint.

Some of the more hopeful guys are hoping for 980-beating performance. To avoid disappointment, I never set my expectations too high in most things. I thought it was gonna be a bit worse than the 980. Was hoping for it to totally beating 970, and maybe 3-5% worse than the 980 and I'll be happy to finally upgrade. First month purchase for me.

It's really sad to see that the RX 480 can only "nearly" match the 980 in 3Dmark firestrike, which I don't spend a lot of game time on. On actual games, the graphs only got head shaking and facepalms from me. Not a bad card, price still looks good, however it is no longer immediate buy material.

With performance around the same as 970 (sometimes better sometimes worse), at the worse half of the charts in terms of all temp, power and noise, this card went from the dream to "this is what 200 buck should get you for next gen anyway."

I mean, at $200, or non-reference at maybe 230, its probably still a decent deal if the non-reference coolers can improve temp and noise by 10-20%. Other than that though, AMD really gotta pray for their next driver working wonders.

I got hyped by Pascal for a year ever since my 570 showed signs of dying. They came out, 1070's price immediately hurt my feelings. This RX 480 came into my life right when I was hurt and had been who I dreamt about every night ever since.

Seems like this guy is also hiding something from me after all.
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A solid upgrade for me. The fans be rattling on my ancient R9 270 bigeyedsmiley.png Gonna wait for aftermarket coolers though.
    
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Can't tell if being coy or serious..

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well the 2304 shaders Polaris10 is ~80% slower than 1080

4096/2304 = 77-78%

of course Vega may improve elsewhere, but how much can it really improve .. especially if the 4096 is the biggest Vega and it still has to fight 1080Ti somehow too (1080Ti still having room starting from 314 mm2 upward)


but its all speculation for now

 

Exactly. That's why I phrased what I said the way that I did. I won't be surprised if a 490 can compete with a 1080. I certainly wouldn't guarantee it at this point, but I don't think that Vega's architecture will be unimpressive, nor do I think Pol 10 is necessarily indicative of how AMD would design a high-performance GPU. They went for a weird niche but one that I think could pay off in terms of sales, and the card does seem to be moving so.. we'll see. I think financially it's going to be a successful product but I don't think it's represenative of AMD's entire bag of tricks.

     
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With the RX 460 crushing the GTX 950 in efficiency (86W vs 145W total system power draw), why did this one not manage it?
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With the RX 460 crushing the GTX 950 in efficiency (86W vs 145W total system power draw), why did this one not manage it?

We only can take AMDs word for that so far. There are no RX 460 reviews out yet.
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Exactly. That's why I phrased what I said the way that I did. I won't be surprised if a 490 can compete with a 1080. I certainly wouldn't guarantee it at this point, but I don't think that Vega's architecture will be unimpressive, nor do I think Pol 10 is necessarily indicative of how AMD would design a high-performance GPU. They went for a weird niche but one that I think could pay off in terms of sales, and the card does seem to be moving so.. we'll see. I think financially it's going to be a successful product but I don't think it's represenative of AMD's entire bag of tricks.
we'll see in 2017

the thing is if 480 perf/watt / efficiency problems stem from the 14nm of GloFo then Vega may "inherit" that too
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