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Actually, on the crappiest mobo it won't be fine, it crashes in win boot.

B/c of the card while in 2D mode with no load? Yeah, sure
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B/c of the card while in 2D mode with no load? Yeah, sure

"Sure".

EDIT: My mistake, not on windows login, but under load. I remembered wrong. Anyway, it crashes. With the old drivers. Last drivers should have fixed that.
Edited by ronnin426850 - 7/9/16 at 7:51am
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Probably more aggressive over-current protection on some old motherboards with 1 X16 PCI-e slot... if it is indeed the card's fault.
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Overclocking?
1. Overclocking is not supported officially and also voids warranty. Are you seriously going to argue this case against the RX 480 when we have many users here overclocking multiple components and over volt beyond safe and warranty margins?
2. Overclocking is a very small margin of users, and has such a small impact on the overall market. ESPECIALLY a 200$ GPU.
3.
Someone would say it's miserable to attack overclockers with AMD's official out of warranty legal statements and at the same time defend AMD who overclocked the card itself from factory to the point of breaking PCI-E specifications.
Yeah, exactly overclocked, because at stock clocks even that compatibility thing doesn't put card to specs even though it is safe to overdraw power from 6-pin... which is in the exact same safe area of a slight overclock of IN-SPEC card.
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Someone would say it's miserable to attack overclockers with AMD's official out of warranty legal statements and at the same time defend AMD who overclocked the card itself from factory to the point of breaking PCI-E specifications.
Yeah, exactly overclocked, because at stock clocks even that compatibility thing doesn't put card to specs even though it is safe to overdraw power from 6-pin... which is in the exact same safe area of a slight overclock of IN-SPEC card.

What? Please rephrase, I don't understand. The power distribution has nothing to do with overclock.
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What? Please rephrase, I don't understand. The power distribution has nothing to do with overclock.
RLY? If AMD sets lower clocks of their ref 480 what would be? Lower powerdraw.
It's basic rule of overclocking. Higher Clocks = Higher Temperature + Higher Powerdraw.
There were Engineering Samples of RX 480 clocked at 800MHz for a reason. AMD just decided that it would be a nonsense to distribute a card which can't even compete with GTX 970 on DX11 so they had to clock it that high that it draws 170W+ while at possible 150W max.
Edited by Ajvar - 7/9/16 at 8:40am
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So is there any unbiased tl;dr a fellow could read on this situation in its current state?
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RLY? If AMD sets lower clocks of their ref 480 what would be? Lower powerdraw.
It's basic rule of overclocking. Higher Clocks = Higher Temperature + Higher Powerdraw.
There were Engineering Samples of RX 480 clocked at 800MHz for a reason. AMD just decided that it would be a nonsense to distribute a card which can't even compete with GTX 970 on DX11 so they had to clock it that high that it draws 170W+ while at possible 150W max.
The very first Athlon 64 engineering samples back in 2001 were clocked at 800 MHz too. Later ES were clocked well below release clocks as well. What's your point?
Edited by AmericanLoco - 7/9/16 at 8:48am
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RLY? If AMD sets lower clocks of their ref 480 what would be? Lower powerdraw.
It's basic rule of overclocking. Higher Clocks = Higher Temperature + Higher Powerdraw.
There were Engineering Samples of RX 480 clocked at 800MHz for a reason. AMD just decided that it would be a nonsense to distribute a card which can't even compete with GTX 970 on DX11 so they had to clock it that high that it draws 170W+ while at possible 150W max.

Powerdraw and Powerdistribution are two veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery different things. 480 has no issues with power draw. It haD issues with power distribution.
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So is there any unbiased tl;dr a fellow could read on this situation in its current state?

The current state of the situation is as follows: There is no longer a situation, everything is resolved with the last AMD drivers.
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