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I had no idea a 960 Strix ever had a power problem. I've been using it for over a year OC'd on an older mobo and it never melted my face off, so I guess an RX 480 aint no big deal.


Well that would probably be true, but AMD. And lets be honest, AMD needs to be kicked when they are down
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Well, enlighten me then, ye-who-is-all-knowing. Or are you all talk with no substance?

Hawaii launch, Tonga launch, Fiji launch, every single APU product launch, server market share loss, gpu market share loss, lack of products for their mobile lineup, even while at the brink of bankruptcy (Altman Z-Score is -1.6) they continue to emphasize performance they may or may not be useful 3-5 years from now..


The only win the company has had in the last 3 years were the consoles. And even then, most console owners wouldn't be able to tell you who manufactured the APU in their consoles...
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Well that would probably be true, but AMD. And lets be honest, AMD needs to be kicked when they are down

Not sure how they're "down" right now, since the only reason you have a multicore computer with full shader and lighting array graphics card is AMD.

I still betcha the problem is on Tomshardware's test rig.
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Hawaii launch, Tonga launch, Fiji launch, every single APU product launch, server market share loss, gpu market share loss, lack of products for their mobile lineup, even while at the brink of bankruptcy (Altman Z-Score is -1.6) they continue to emphasize performance they may or may not be useful 3-5 years from now..


The only win the company has had in the last 3 years were the consoles. And even then, most console owners wouldn't be able to tell you who manufactured the APU in their consoles...

Compared to Intel and Nvidia how big of a company is AMD? they make both CPU's & GPU's going up against massive competition who specialise in one or the other.

It's not surprising that they lose money especially when every launch is the same thing "AMD's crap, everything they do is crap buy Intel and Nvidia". But hey at least AMD haven't bricked GPU's in the last few years thinking.gif.
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Not sure how they're "down" right now, since the only reason you have a multicore computer with full shader and lighting array graphics card is AMD.

The innovators seldom succeed. They do, however, provide the foundation for competitor which inevitably leads to their own downfall.

Case in point: Nikola Tesla
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Compared to Intel and Nvidia how big of a company is AMD? .
How big is AMD? That is relative. Currently it is a worthless shell of what it once was. AMD and ATI had ~50% market share in both GPU and CPU markets until about 2006... The last decade speaks for itself...



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The AGP slot provides a limited amount of power. They had 1A on 12V, 2A on 5V, and 6A on 3.3V to work with. Performance cards initially used a floppy power connector and later used molex power connectors. AGP Pro provided more power, but AGP Pro cards were rarely seen.

There was also a bunch that used normal 6pin connectors towards the end of its life, I know because I had a AGP 6800GS with one.
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I get what you're saying, I really do, and I don't disagree. However what really ruffles my feathers is certain people have their pitchforks ready 24/7 and seem all too happy to crucify AMD at the first hint of trouble.

I mean, look at the responses when it was pointed out a certain Asus 960 card had the same issue. Nothing but excuses on why it's not important, how it isn't nVidia's fault (even though nVidia had to approve the board design), how people in the red camp are just deflecting and it changes nothing etc. Then again, this is the OCN news section so I should've expected as much. doh.gif

And look at how fast the news of this issue being apparently fixed in the new drivers that reviewers didn't use has spread. Not very fast at all...

Apparently these new drivers improve its efficiency making it draw ~140w or something, which makes sense in a way as AMD touted its increased efficiency but it didn't really show it, maybe the stock voltage was higher for testing purposes (eg. See how much power it uses/how high it can clock overall/just for simple stability back when it was an ES) or they had some power management disabled and they forgot to update it in the copy of the driver that went to reviewers.
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Not sure how they're "down" right now, since the only reason you have a multicore computer with full shader and lighting array graphics card is AMD.

I still betcha the problem is on Tomshardware's test rig.

Being facetious

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Hawaii launch, Tonga launch, Fiji launch, every single APU product launch, server market share loss, gpu market share loss, lack of products for their mobile lineup, even while at the brink of bankruptcy (Altman Z-Score is -1.6) they continue to emphasize performance they may or may not be useful 3-5 years from now..


The only win the company has had in the last 3 years were the consoles. And even then, most console owners wouldn't be able to tell you who manufactured the APU in their consoles...


The launches were a mistake? Should they have not launched a new product, ever? Can you be more specific, instead of being so broad and general as to actually provide no thoughtful discussion to a topic. And can you actually describe how they havent' learnt from the mistake you haven't actually quantified yet


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The launches were a mistake? Should they have not launched a new product, ever? Can you be more specific, instead of being so broad and general as to actually provide no thoughtful discussion to a topic. And can you actually describe how they havent' learnt from the mistake you haven't actually quantified yet
It's not first time I have pointed out AMDs flaws rolleyes.gif

Since you are so keen on history and appear to be well acquainted of my "trolling", feel free to look up the details of the stated points through my post history. biggrin.gif
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If these cards draw too much current over the PCI-E bus how is it that they passed PCI-SIG compliance testing? Does that get AMD off the hook for liability if the cards damage anything, and is there some software I can download to run these tests or a guide to show where to hook up my scope??
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Originally Posted by Slomo4shO View Post

It's not first time I have pointed out AMDs flaws rolleyes.gif

And I have no doubt it wont be the last rolleyes.gifrolleyes.gif



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Since you are so keen on history and appear to be well acquainted to my "trolling", feel free to look up the details of the stated points through my post history. biggrin.gif

So really, your opinion that "AMD isn't keen on learning from past mistakes" is exactly that, an opinion formed without substance or support. Thanks for the clarification thumb.gifbiggrin.gif
You will find yourself in good company on the internet with many others who are also averse to critical thinking
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