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Eh, I've been pulling more power through the pci-e than the RX480 does at stock for over a year now with my 750ti by modifying it's bios, no problems to speak of.

To the guy who ran 3way crossfire and ran into audio issues (which seem common on that board anyways), did you plug in the power supply to extra power connectors on the motherboard for the slots? It's always been dangerous using more than two cards just using the 24pin to supply the slots, regardless what the card actually is.
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Originally Posted by Hardware Hoshi View Post

What are you talking about? The problem is still not fixed and it will never be without loss of performance. I was one of the persons talking about hardwrae issues/flaws of the RX480. Normally those are not fixable unless you change the hardware - aka unfixable. The software can only solve symptoms, but then you leave with a half-baked product.

If nothing else, undervolting would reduce power draw while simultaneously increasing performance, so there goes your "unfixable" theory. But I know what you'll counter with next: not every card can be undervolted to the same extent, people who buy $200 cards don't want to/know how to mess with voltage settings and P states blah blah so don't bother.

Also if a software can "solve symptoms", then that's a "fix". Let's not play the stupid semantics game please.
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I have seen no final solution yet and I am not a fan of fixing products after they launch. The product either works from the get go or is doomed - that's my mentality. Yes, the RX480 is selling like mad right now. But if the problems pile up or word gets around, this could end really bad. In addition I have no clue why you guys still defend this like if you were obsessed. Are you that guillable or just fanatics?

So I hope you'll agree Sandy Bridge was a massive failure then.

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Only ASUS I want is for an AM1 and 5370. Rumor is that you can overclock on that board from the stock 2.2ghz to 2.8ghz. I mean it's not amazing but perfect for an HTPC.

I built a HTPC with an athlon 5350 and its a complete turd. It will not play back 4k youtube videos at all or even 1080p 60 fps vids. If all you need is 1080 30 fps videos it does that fine. I kid you not, i think intel atoms that come in 50 dollar tablets are stronger than this thing.

But hey, i got the motherboard and CPU at microcenter for 42 bucks out the door so i guess i cant complain?
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The failures do not have to occur immediately. In the worst case scenario, your hardware could be slowly damaged over time. The wearing down rate of the hardware is an unknown factor right now.
I have seen no final solution yet and I am not a fan of fixing products after they launch. The product either works from the get go or is doomed - that's my mentality. Yes, the RX480 is selling like mad right now. But if the problems pile up or word gets around, this could end really bad. In addition I have no clue why you guys still defend this like if you were obsessed. Are you that guillable or just fanatics?
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@SuperZan
Overclocker's dream was just a bad PR stunt. Messing up the power specs of a hardware product however is not!

You can play the Apologizer the whole day, but it will not change anything. Any vendor who does mess up like this has to be pummeled till they never dare to do the same again. I don't care if its AMD, Nvidia or god knows who.

[OT]
So, you're gonna do something about this (in the link bellow)?, as there is no fix since the both cards were launched (over a month?)?

You see, both are VR Ready - and they are, but only if your HDMI is not occupied or you purchase DP to HDMI converter or find some other workaround...(that's at least $40, you know)

Nvidia GTX 1080, 1070 Display Port Incompatible With Vive HMD
[End OT]

You see, GPUs (and not only) are becoming extremely complex to build and mistakes can and will be made along the way. Calm down.Fix will be found by both companies!

PS:
Of course, since both GTX are not working out of the box with Vive, you're free to go discuss the DPs current incompatibility in the GTX 1070/80 threads and protect our rights.

Apologies to the mods, if the above is considered bating or flaming.

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Edited by C2H5OH - 7/6/16 at 2:50am
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Originally Posted by Cubeman View Post

The Rampage IV does have a history of audio issues, But the chances of it failing on its own at the sametime of the RX480's and the current PCIE compliance issue? I literally had no issues with the MB before the fact.
the chances of it actually being the RX480's that caused the audio failure are slim to none.
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I built a HTPC with an athlon 5350 and its a complete turd. It will not play back 4k youtube videos at all or even 1080p 60 fps vids. If all you need is 1080 30 fps videos it does that fine. I kid you not, i think intel atoms that come in 50 dollar tablets are stronger than this thing.

But hey, i got the motherboard and CPU at microcenter for 42 bucks out the door so i guess i cant complain?

Its faster than bay trail/cherry trail by leaps and bounds. Mine will do YT/HBO/Hulu/Netflix/Amazon Video 1080p@60fps, perhaps you have browser issues? Heck, I can even play games on it without issue as long as I target 720p/30fps, which is fine for games played with a controller on a TV IMHO.

Back on topic, the VRM power split fix is a bandaid at best. It may interfere with power management and current limiting. In which case, Stilt should just re-post the fix with the power target reporting divider changed so that is not an issue. Unless that is already addressed in his guide.
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So they will address power distribution via a driver update, and then allow for a compatibility mode that runs the card slightly slower to hit the 150 watt TDP. In addition they will see around 3% FPS improvement via the new driver. So now they will shift power to the 6-pin connector, and give you a slight bump in performance, sounds like a good job by AMD.
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Nice, looks like Stilts fix is implemented properly at driver load time.
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