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Originally Posted by Ajvar View Post

Obviously not on this motherboard wink.gif https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhjC_8ai7QA
What I am saying is that damage is possible. Not on all mobos, not always immediately. But it is possible while staying in specs would bring it to virtually no risk.

That board did not burn, he specifically said that the board was shutting itself down. This is likely overcurrent protection kicking in, the board was not damaged. If the OCP was not there, the board would likely run the card fine without any negative effects. The same board would likely have done the same thing with the GTX 480 or GTX 750 Ti.
Edited by KarathKasun - 7/6/16 at 11:30am
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https://imgur.com/a/XjwlB

yep, not a card issue
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Originally Posted by Cubeman View Post

https://imgur.com/a/XjwlB

yep, not a card issue

LOL. That result is far and above 80w overloading the connector. More like there were missing or faulty pins in the connector. biggrin.gif
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post #994 of 1129
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Originally Posted by Cubeman View Post

https://imgur.com/a/XjwlB

yep, not a card issue

What pci-e version is that board? looks super old, like 1.0.

below is a situation with it happening on a pci-e 2.0 mobo (i know it has been posted here before)

https://community.amd.com/thread/202410

Anyone else see 2.0 boards failing?

EDIT: After KarathKasun's post I took a closer look. That mobo is rusted and pretty much trash. Not sure it carries much weight.

https://community.amd.com/thread/202410?start=90&tstart=0

http://i.imgur.com/jflC60V.jpg
Edited by andydabeast - 7/6/16 at 12:15pm
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What pci-e version is that board? looks super old, like 1.0.

below is a situation with it happening on a pci-e 2.0 mobo (i know it has been posted here before)

https://community.amd.com/thread/202410

Anyone else see 2.0 boards failing?

It didnt fail, the connector was dirty/oxidized. The exploded slot was likely dirty as well and may have been missing a pin or two by the looks of the graphics card aftermath.

Actually, if it was PCIe 1.1/1.0 (or a 2.0 slot built to the old standard) it makes sense. A slot that old only has 4 12v conductors, 2.0 and up have 5.
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This thread is 95 pages too long...

50 posts per page FTW. (i'm on page #20 now)

imo, there would be less rehashing of what already discussed if more people did that; which would mean less posts/pages. wink.gif
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https://imgur.com/a/XjwlB

yep, not a card issue

yea its not.
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Sad to see the system go this way. This is what really got me into computers. It's an old OEM system, socket AM3, and I've just been tinkering with it forever. Did some RAM upgrades, upgraded from some crap stock Athlon to a Phenom x6 1055T, learned about the magic of SSDs, and finally figured it was time for a GPU upgrade.
Whoops.
I figured the RX 480 would be a good choice and that the rumors were just clickbait and overreactions. Well. It was a good choice for about six hours. Then I got acquainted with the wonderful scent of burning PCB.
I guess I have an excuse to do a full system upgrade now. It's pretty long overdue, but I'm surprised this beast has run as long as it has. RIP frown.gif

from OP. i dont even know what to say... beyond ret. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by Hardware Hoshi View Post

You would be surprised how many gamers are still on a Core-2-Duo (775) or X58 to early 1155 boards, not mentioning al the AM2/AM3 board out there. These systems are still doing their job. Just because AMD can not do their own job, does not mean those hardware is useless. Why throw away hardware if it still works? Besides the majority of budget gamers are an audience with almost no knowledge about PC similar to what we PC enthusiasts have.
The issue isn't about hardware that still works. If that's the case you would be trying to figure out how to get the rx480 to work on 286's perhaps 386's. Making that a moot point. The point here is that the hw in question is more adequate for PC for the last couple of years (not converted walmart/sam's/BJs/Costo oem mb's from 10-12 years ago). So lets use common sense here.
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So let's play the usual waiting game for better AMD drivers? Sorry, but for power delivery or fan control this is not an option. They are security related parts of a graphics card and therefore should never be insecure at all. In case AMD fised this somehow in their driver, who can tell if those issues do not come back like all the other bugs AMD released in the past?
Sure, why not? No opinion about waiting for theses "AMD driverz". They did ack. the concern then announce they were releasing them.
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As soon as this is tested again and seemingly OK by review sites, nobody will control this anymore. Would the failure come back, your graphics card / board could be slowly damaged without the user knowing. This is so critical I could puke that all guys are so guillable and borderline stupid.
Generally the audience is the sub 250$ to 500$ PCs. Every low budget system from an entry level to midrange components. To mess up the power consumption here can kill the whole system.
This is still a storm in the teacup. Nothing factually based. Strawman based in nature with no scientific analysis.
Yes, there are people out there with sub $500 pc. However, it's a false equivalence to suggest they are all lga775 based.
Which brings me back to my original thought on the subject...We really are chewing cud at this point.
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Originally Posted by Waitng4realGPU View Post

X58 are pretty beefy and I doubt they'd have a problem, early 1155 boards I'd assume are fine too, or there'd probably be some reports of damage.

Valid concerns I agree, and that's the whole point of the fix to transfer some load onto the power connector instead of the PCIE.

The usual game of waiting for drivers is a bit of a harsh call as they have responded quickly to the problem and will release it in the next 48 hours.

Not sure how the issues would come back once fixed..........
Well said...
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Originally Posted by KarathKasun View Post

I suppose the fact that many GeForce cards after the 750 Ti refuse to boot on many old BIOS based machines is the larger problem then? This problem (RX 480 power draw) can be fixed by adding a conservative power mode to the driver.
LOL, nah, ignore the man behind the curtain. But in all seriousness, it's whimsical to say the least but good way to contrast his point.
Edited by EastCoast - 7/6/16 at 12:18pm
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Originally Posted by Cubeman View Post

https://imgur.com/a/XjwlB

yep, not a card issue

Well, I was going to upgrade to an RX 480, I don't think I will now.

   
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Well, I was going to upgrade to an RX 480, I don't think I will now.

it was put into a 2007 oem walmart build. he upgraded from athlon to 1055t and other things why dont you just research before posting things like this.
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