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Hey Guys,

Just as the title says I'm trying to get the best out of my current set up for watching movies/tv shows, and some gaming. Listed below is my current set up.

Receiver : Sony STR-DN840

Center Channel: Klipsch RC-42 II

Floor speakers: Klipsch RF-42 II

Subwoofer: Klipsch SW-450 (I have 2 of these)

TV: Sony 65" 850D

Currently only have a 3.2 set up, but looking to buy these Klipsch R-15M to use as surround for a 5.2 system.

To me when watching a movie just lacks the wow factor Im looking for, as far as the sound goes (especially the highs). I really went about getting all the components by just throwing things together in hopes that everything would work wonders, but so far it hasnt been the case. Is there anything I can do to improve my highs, and fine tune my lows? I finally have a somewhat proper room to enjoy my system and would like to make it as great as an experience as possible. Any help is appreciated, thanks!! thumb.gif
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Doesn't look like too bad of a setup depending on how big the listening area is at least.

If you're unhappy with the flatness of the sound I would recommend turning on "loudness" on the receiver. This tweaks the frequency response to better fit the average human ear at lower volume levels.


If you want to upgrade, I'd say put those front speakers you've got now in the back and get something with bigger drivers for up front. 6 inch or 6-1/2 inch drivers preferably. possibly dual of that size.

the tiny speakers kinda clamp the dynamic range, like yeah they can produce X sound level but you need the headroom for that explosion or whatever other sound in the movie. The short substantially louder parts are what make the wow factor. If the setup is kinda limiting that down so it's all about the same level, well it's gonna be boring.
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If your receiver has a tuning mic that you can plug in and have it automatically tune the outputs, that can help dramatically.
Also make sure your receiver is setup to use the proper sound mode.

I know if I change my onkyo to theater-dimensional mode, it makes everything sound pretty meh.
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Doesn't look like too bad of a setup depending on how big the listening area is at least.

If you're unhappy with the flatness of the sound I would recommend turning on "loudness" on the receiver. This tweaks the frequency response to better fit the average human ear at lower volume levels.


If you want to upgrade, I'd say put those front speakers you've got now in the back and get something with bigger drivers for up front. 6 inch or 6-1/2 inch drivers preferably. possibly dual of that size.

the tiny speakers kinda clamp the dynamic range, like yeah they can produce X sound level but you need the headroom for that explosion or whatever other sound in the movie. The short substantially louder parts are what make the wow factor. If the setup is kinda limiting that down so it's all about the same level, well it's gonna be boring.

It isnt a bad system, and I think it is definitely better than most. It just seems that some scenes should sound better, especially when there is a scene when there is glass being broken or shattered. The main reason I went with smaller speakers was the fact that I have the subwoofers, and dont need the woofers on the towers to provide much if any bass .

As far as the size of the room, I would say roughly 12x20 and it is a basement.

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If your receiver has a tuning mic that you can plug in and have it automatically tune the outputs, that can help dramatically.
Also make sure your receiver is setup to use the proper sound mode.

I know if I change my onkyo to theater-dimensional mode, it makes everything sound pretty meh.

It does have a mic that can be placed in the listening area and tuned and it has been done. Maybe I just need to sit down for a while and go through all the settings to see if there is anyway to fine tune everything to my liking. I have been through the pre sets for listening and I find myself flipping threw them with nothing really grabbing me like I think they should.
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Having subwoofers can fill in the frequency response of the smaller speakers, but lets face it, glass breaking isn't a subwoofer sound. The small speakers just don't have as much headroom for reproducing a huge spike in soundpressure. The attack just won't be there.
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Having subwoofers can fill in the frequency response of the smaller speakers, but lets face it, glass breaking isn't a subwoofer sound. The small speakers just don't have as much headroom for reproducing a huge spike in soundpressure. The attack just won't be there.

Yeah I dont expect the sub to have any of the highs, I think the subs are fine for the most part. Just looking for better highs I suppose, would you think a bigger center channel or floor speakers would be the bigger impact for this?
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In my opinion, yes. I have been piecing together various surround sound setups since I was about 8 years old. In the last 10 or so years I've had the means to buy more suitable parts but nonetheless, I have tried so many combinations of sizes and power levels and types of drivers. My philosophy with almost everything is to try tons of logical combinations with cheap stuff, then take what you learned and reproduce it with nice stuff. computer building, car engine building, this stuff, etc.

Like I was saying before, I'm sure your current center and front speakers are capable of producing the sound pressure level necessary to make 90% of the movie as loud as you want it. The trouble is, for those 10% parts where some short loud thing needs 50% more power, your speakers are already mostly maxxed out, so they can't linearly produce the louder level in relation to the volume of the before and after sounds.

So, you don't need bigger drivers for the sake of more bass, not at all. You need them to be able to deliver that punch way louder than the average sounds. Dynamic range like that is what gives the WOW effect you're looking for.

I personally use 2 pairs of alesis studio monitors with 6-1/2 drivers for my front speakers, 2 on each side. The center normally doesn't have so much of the huge SPL bursts on it and is mostly voice and stuff. I'd say you could probably be fine with your current center channel.

I'd put your front speakers in the back and find some front speakers that can produce higher SPL levels (bigger drivers normally) that way they can accurately produce the louder scenes and give more "punch" that is linearly more powerful than the rest of the noises.
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Those Klipsch speakers are known for being bright. Something is wrong with your settings.
    
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dynamic range lol
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I was just honking his horn tweeters. wink.gif

I set my speaker levels by ear and my center channel is +3 and the front left and right are at 0.
    
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