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So ¿this gen sapphire was a dud on AMD cards? damn, i went sapphire cause of the "Sapphire is for AMD as EVGA is for Nvidia" and they both failed this gen...LOL yessir.gif
     
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I wouldn't say that the card is a dud, power delivery is on point, it's a shame they took out a power phase, which would def help with VRM temps, but as far as performance, the card itself + the chip on my card is quite well, probably top 5% I've seen online. I get best bang for buck at 1.24v @ 1495, throw a water block and it's running 24c idle, 40c under load after a long gaming session.
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I wouldn't say that the card is a dud, power delivery is on point, it's a shame they took out a power phase, which would def help with VRM temps, but as far as performance, the card itself + the chip on my card is quite well, probably top 5% I've seen online. I get best bang for buck at 1.24v @ 1495, throw a water block and it's running 24c idle, 40c under load after a long gaming session.

Hey jeb biggrin.gif good to read you again man hope you had a nice trip to USA, 1495 core looks like a dream for me, since i can't get it stable even with +96mV at 1430 core, ¿ASIC quality maybe a factor? mine has 79.6% and temps go up too fast, to the mid 70's and almost 80's, or is it the silicon lottery, on firestrike it always downclocks at some point o f the benchmark, kind of weird. I am still happy since i came from a GTX 960, and mostly cheap o laptops, (i had an accident and i was out of the computers loop for like 5 years). thumb.gif
     
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I think the 1.1438/ 1.150v limiting is driver related. Adjusting 65288 on 16.11.5 limits the core voltage. I think it was 16.xx something removes the limit. I did see 1.294v once on a different driver. Will have to find the right driver without the voltage limit on 65288. Are you guys successfully increasing voltage on 65288? Which driver do you guys use? Thx

*update* whql 16.9.2 works better. I set 65288 to 1200 flashed and installed the driver. Noticed no change without adjusting power limit. Opened Trixx, set +50% power limit resulted in 1.200v from 1.1438(gpuz) 1.44v hwinfo. So I adjusted the limit in the bios initial 100w/90a/120w (ampere is watts times .75).

It appears you can't actually make it a factory overclock, since changing 65288 auto-defaults to 1.150v if you gpuz render test upon restart. Requiring Trixx reset to pull the higher voltage... So I guess sticking with 1300mhz core max and leaving 65288 is all that we can do... Then using Trixx. I notice a 15fps increase with trixx power limit increase of 50% from 20fps firestrike to 35fps on the xfx rx460. Just wish I could keep this for games... from 20fps to 35fps is huge for smoothness. Rather than drooping to 11fps, it droops to 21-25fps.
Edited by chris89 - 12/8/16 at 6:06am
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Looks like they readded the bios signature check with the relive driver, i had to flash the stock bios to make the driver load......mad.gif
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Looks like they readded the bios signature check with the relive driver, i had to flash the stock bios to make the driver load......mad.gif
Bummer, if true. Editing timings was pretty much free performance. I'll test it when I get back home in about an hour. Dual BIOS card, so it's going to be pretty simple.

EDIT: Yup. Into the trash it goes.
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Bummer, if true. Editing timings was pretty much free performance. I'll test it when I get back home in about an hour. Dual BIOS card, so it's going to be pretty simple.

EDIT: Yup. Into the trash it goes.

Confirmed that for me, my RX card no longer works in the new driver. My 280x with custom bios has no issue.
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Same here, custom bios doesn't work with 16.12.1.
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Same here, they have added the bios signature check again. It seems to be only an RX series problem (https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5h6jdy/amd_radeon_software_16121_release_notes_crimson/daxv3vs/)
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Hello all, has anyone noticed by adjusting 65288 that it doesn't stick unless you first reset trixx? I noticed ddu detects the bios version of the card, so maybe when the driver is installed is when the increased 65288 bios should be in place. So when the driver is installed it ties what the driver sees in the bios to the driver during installation? Meaning if the driver sees 65288 in place it figures the usual 1150mv max. Instead first altering the bios 65288 to say whatever you feel works... for the rx 460 something like 1275mv is needed for solid 1375mhz operation (by stock is clock times .92 so i find somewhere between .92 and .975 provides stability)(1375mhz x .95 = 1306mv). As far as I have gone so far is 1375mhz on the core, maybe a bit more and 2000mhz memory @ 128 gigabytes per second. Which that 2000mhz memory needs 1150mv to run sort-of-kind-of stable. Any way to dial out the timings to take on the bigger memory clock with stability? It can do 1875 on 1000mv but when you load out 2000mhz memory, it requires a fairly hefty voltage increase to provide some kind of stability. So far on 16.9.2 I can only go up to 1250mhz on 65288 with 2000mhz memory from 1750mhz @ 1150mv. Hope you guys can lend some advice in your testing. Thanks biggrin.gif
Edited by chris89 - 12/8/16 at 9:10am
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