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That took a while but finally we are on the same page now. You are on 14800 graphic score range on preformance presets which is exactly where it should be. As i thought, 15800 graphic is a custome run result. Please stop telling to users that you are scoring around 15800 in Firestrik as it is misleading.

I was trying to reproduce your clocks on my card and run firestrike and my score is almost identical, i saw in your posts that your card is operating on 1407-1416 MHz, so i choose 1410 which is more or less in the middle. I saw that your memory is set on 2267, i use uber V2 timings and my memory max out to 2100 with few EDC errors and i set such clock to the test. Firestrike do not benefit a lot on memory actually it will increse the score by 100-200 graphic points. Let sa that RX 480 is a mid range card and CPU do not limit this card.

As far as i know your are using old drivers 16. 09 or 12 i dont remmeber, these drivers boost a bit FireStrike score, I was using latest 17.3.3.

Summary: 1410/2100 with uber V2 timings.

Time for magic: 14727 Performance Firestrike comparing to your 14801

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/18950731?

So, let's validate the statements which i saw in your posts which to be honest were stonishing for me:

1. You said that using some exotic thermal compound on VRM will increse FPS - BUSTED - my VRM is burnning and i did that to prove that your statement is false, VRM temperature is absolutely irrelevant before you reach the threshold of 115 C degrees and you will find such information in this thread in other posts as well. This is the way how VRM works. You can improve thermal conductivity and maybe lower a bit power efficiency and work culture. That's all, for sure it will do not impact FPS in direct way.

2. You said that cooling of some cold chips on the PCB has extended your performance capabilities - BUSTED - irrelevant for performance, i do not have any heatsinks on mentioned chips, most of them are cold, no impact on FireStrike score.

3 . You said that you have scored 15800 in Firestrike performance run on ~1416 core and 2266 mem - BUSTED - score do not lie, usually smile.gif The real score is around 14800 points and it is very predictable score. Bare in mind that on core set 1410-1420 and dicent voltage around 1.21-1.23 your card will start to exceeding power budget = power throttling. If you didn't extend the power limit in bios your card will slightly throttle due to insufficient power budget,

There is no reason to romanticize RX 480, it's a very good card in resonable price range. There is no need to falsify the results of this card.

I'm open to discuss about above, if you can proove this mistical 15800 graphic score i will be very interrested to have a look on that.

Thanks for the score, you can enter the link as well, then we can have a look on the overall setup.

How is you guys are scoring higher on a single card then I am with crossfire 480s?
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HI ALL

Can someone point me in the right direction.

I new to custom bios settings and upgrading my card and don't know where to start.

I have a new Asus Strix ROC RX480 8GB card and want to mine ethereum coins but i'm only getting 24MHz and can see from other posts it's possible to get 28MHz.

I don't know what i'm doing and could do with some help. i Have made a back up with GPU-Z and also made another back up with ATIFlash, but this is as far as i can get.
downloaded Polaris Bios Editor but now I'm stuck

Many Thanks Karl Roberts (ENGLAND)
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@jeztur2003

14800 graphic score, my personal record for overal score is around 12500 on single card
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@jeztur2003

14800 graphic score, my personal record for overal score is around 12500 on single card
OK gotcha still single card 12500 dual 13000?
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@jeztur2003

probably your cpu is limiting the overall score, as you can see your graphic score is doubled. Overall score is the combination of your cpu, gpu and some of memory performance. Each component has a different weight.

Here you have explenation of how does it work in details:

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?34363-GUIDE-3DMark-Score-Calculation-how-to-calculated-your-3DMark-Score
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@jeztur2003

probably your cpu is limiting the overall score, as you can see your graphic score is doubled. Overall score is the combination of your cpu, gpu and some of memory performance. Each component has a different weight.

Here you have explenation of how does it work in details:

https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?34363-GUIDE-3DMark-Score-Calculation-how-to-calculated-your-3DMark-Score

Definitely cpu limited just waiting for black friday to go ryzen.
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@Na1l So what is it you would like for me to do to please your curiosity? I don't feel like modding my drivers so i use 16.9.2... thumb.gif

@jeztur2003 Your crossfire is still waxing single cards. However your score will go from 120fps to over 200fps with ryzen on 2x 3.0 PCIe x16.

By the way you can gain at least 10fps per card when changing hyper transport/ nb link multi within the cpu.
Edited by chris89 - 3/30/17 at 8:21pm
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@Na1l
To be fair I'm like 64.56% sure that keeping VRM cool will help with stabilizing ever so slightly higher clocks. Plus the power savings are nice. But please don't ask me to test for it, because I really am a very lazy person biggrin.gif.

What I have, however, found out and tested is that Firestrike does improve GPU score by a decent margin with CPU/RAM overclocks, so there's always that low hanging fruit to pick, if you're chasing higher benchmark scores.
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@Loladinas

I also thought that cool VRM will help to stabilize the card but i didn't find any proove for that during overclocking. It may help on different cards but not on RX . Lets say that according to information which i found, VRM section on RX is overgrown, it's massive. VRM decrease their efficiency with higher temperatures, even if we will lose 30% of VRM performance there is still a headroom.

@chris89

you can use whatever drivers you like, i do not have a problem with that. But i will argue with statements based on false premises each time. My intention was to straighten few things, that's all.

I also stongly encourage everyone to use scientific methods to anlyze the behavior of the computer, especialy use the diagram on the first page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method
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@Loladinas

I also thought that cool VRM will help to stabilize the card but i didn't find any proove for that during overclocking. It may help on different cards but not on RX . Lets say that according to information which i found, VRM section on RX is overgrown, it's massive. VRM decrease their efficiency with higher temperatures, even if we will lose 30% of VRM performance there is still a headroom.
The thing is, I think, that putting the VRM section under heatsinks on my card allowed me to push from 1550MHz to 1560MHz (it wasn't stable tho, just good enough to complete a bench run or two), but I'm not going to argue that's definitely the case as there have been other variables that have changed between those runs, including CPU/RAM overclocks, fresh OS install, new drivers, different airflow... Of well, if anything it's just peace of mind, that I've extended the life of those poor overworked MOSFETS a tiny bit.

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