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Originally Posted by M3gNa View Post

Has anyone has a Sapphire RX480 Nitro+ OC 4GB here?

I'm dealing with something weird. Benching the card with 3DMark i can see that it throttles a bit when it reaches 145W power draw. Isn't this card supposed to come with a higher Max. Power Limit? I have checked the bios with Polaris Bios Editor and it's shows the Max. Power Limit set to 145W but i thought the Nitro series would come with a higher Max. Power Limit?

Depending on you leakage value it may be throttling due to high current. The VRMs are good and can do 50a up to 125c (ir3551) but on high leakage 470s (except the Strix IF it uses the ir3555) you can draw too much current because it's only 4 phases with 200a constant and 300a burst current.

On the rx 470 you want an Asic of 75 or less for overclocking without extreme cooling. 80+ Asic will likely be limited by the VRMs peak current output. Not as much a problem on the 480 with 6 phases unless you have 90+Asic

Edit: thought you said 470 my bad, but still rules apply if you have a high Asic and you raise voltage you increase current draw faster. Try lowering your voltage and see if throttling persists

If you're looking for a 480 with the best power limits an delivery you need the Strix 480. It's ir3555 does 60a per phase up to 125c for a total 360a. It's the best 480 imo because leakage values don't matter on it is so beefy (its power delivery is VERY over powered). That and the core gets no power from the slot only memory does
Edited by Echoa - 9/28/16 at 1:38pm
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Any workaround to pass that power limit?

Yes.

Install MSI Afterburner 4.3.0 Beta14 with Polaris 10 support.
Goto Settings -> General -> AMD Compatibility properties, activate "Extend official overclocking limits" and reboot.

This will create the registry entry "PP_PhmSoftPowerPlayTable" at:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000
last 4 digits can vary due to crossfire or whatever..

Memory clock limit is now increased to 2600MHz (Wattman, WattTool).

To raise the power limit change the marked byte to the desired value (hex):

Reboot. Power limit should be increased now.


U can save the reg key and delete anything except "PP_PhmSoftPowerPlayTable":

..if u don't want to have Afterburner on your System. New driver, just add the .reg file. It's a copy of the limits stored in the bios, and it overrides them. smile.gif
Edited by hellm - 9/28/16 at 1:57pm
post #673 of 4855
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Originally Posted by hellm View Post

Yes.

Install MSI Afterburner 4.3.0 Beta14 with Polaris 10 support.
Goto Settings -> General -> AMD Compatibility properties, activate "Extend official overclocking limits" and reboot.

This will create the registry entry "PP_PhmSoftPowerPlayTable" at:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000
last 4 digits can vary due to crossfire or whatever..

Memory clock limit is now increased to 2600MHz (Wattman, WattTool).

To raise the power limit edit the marked byte to the desired value (hex):

Reboot. Power limit should be increased now.


U can save the reg key and delete anything except "PP_PhmSoftPowerPlayTable":

..if u don't want to have Afterburner on your System. New driver, just add the .reg file. It's a copy of the limits stored in the bios, and it overrides them. smile.gif

Do you know how to disable the fan turning off on the nitro without a AB custom fan curve? I have my fan curve in bios but it still turns them off at idle
Edited by Echoa - 9/28/16 at 3:00pm
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Originally Posted by hellm View Post

Yes.

Install MSI Afterburner 4.3.0 Beta14 with Polaris 10 support.
Goto Settings -> General -> AMD Compatibility properties, activate "Extend official overclocking limits" and reboot.

This will create the registry entry "PP_PhmSoftPowerPlayTable" at:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4d36e968-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}\0000
last 4 digits can vary due to crossfire or whatever..

Memory clock limit is now increased to 2600MHz (Wattman, WattTool).

To raise the power limit change the marked byte to the desired value (hex):

Reboot. Power limit should be increased now.


U can save the reg key and delete anything except "PP_PhmSoftPowerPlayTable":

..if u don't want to have Afterburner on your System. New driver, just add the .reg file. It's a copy of the limits stored in the bios, and it overrides them. smile.gif

I'm currently troubleshooting my powerlimit problem as having started with the 16.9.2/16.9.1 driver recognizing AB's changes to the pp_PHMSoftPowerPlayTable as a custom bios and throttling to the same 20% power limit that the new driver does on cards using a custom bios. Not saying that's what's happening, but if true that would mean EMBD would have the same problem and ASUS Tweak and the same when using a reg file.
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Now as i have my Rx 480 converted to 8gb fully working gpu, i am getting temps in 85c while full load and sometimes 88c at 88% fan speed which i applied through msi afterburner. I would like to know from you guys that how much can i undervolt the gpu to get my desired speed, my asic quality is 79.2% and i know that this wont tell how much i can undervolt to get 1266 mhz out of it. This will reduce temps and also power consumption. Can you guys give your figures if any of u are undervolting it even to reduce temps. Thanks
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I'm currently troubleshooting my powerlimit problem as having started with the 16.9.2/16.9.1 driver recognizing AB's changes to the pp_PHMSoftPowerPlayTable as a custom bios and throttling to the same 20% power limit that the new driver does on cards using a custom bios. Not saying that's what's happening, but if true that would mean EMBD would have the same problem and ASUS Tweak and the same when using a reg file.

Don't know exactly what u mean..

without reg file (+50% on a ref black edition which has 115W PT means 172,5W max)

and here we are.. next i tried +66% which would give the GPU approximately 190W

bingo..

works for me.. smile.gif

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Do you know how to disable the fan turning off on the nitro without a AB custom fan curve? I have my fan curve in bios but it still turns them off at idle
sorry.. i just know about the power limit yet..
Edited by hellm - 9/29/16 at 2:15am
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cause I'm gonna buy a card to cf,can I buy 4gb card flash it to 8?
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cause I'm gonna buy a card to cf,can I buy 4gb card flash it to 8?

There's no guarantee it will be able to just buy an 8gb
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Hi, is there any deep description about each byte of the timing strap? From the 1st post: 777000000000000022CC1C00CE616C47D0570F15B48C250B006AE7000B031420FA8900A0030000001E123A46DB354019 (2000/1650 timings) what 77 means? And 00000... And so on...
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There's no guarantee it will be able to just buy an 8gb
yes but is 50 $ cheeper.
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