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For what they're offering, it's overpriced.

I was sort of expecting 2560x1440 resolution on CV1, but the 90hz refresh rate limit almost sounds insulting given how important latency is to the experience and how fast we're driving monitors of the same resolution right now.
The CV1 of both HMDs were based on the average mid to high end ranged GPUs at the time of their release. Which was the GTX 970 & up. The res & framerate are consistent with the lowest denominator, the 970. You cannot compare monitors res & refresh rates to that of VR. A monitor's framerate dips on a demanding area you flinch, framerate dips in VR you barf!
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I don't understand how VR is going to survive the mainstream at least. The 3D fad died off REAL fast and all you had to wear is a sleek pair of lightweight, non intrusive glasses that only gave you a light headache after long sessions. Now you got to wear a huge robocop helm with dangling cords while nausea heaven awaits. I think it'll always be around and be a niche but I don't think it'll be anything more than that until it's literally a pair of lightweight wireless goggles with insane refresh rate and no latency. Probably sound like a broken record and yes I admit I haven't tried it. I'm VERY prone to motion sickness and even if I'm not, I heard the resolution "screen door" effect & latency issues aren't all that up to snuff. I haven't used a low resolution monitor where I can see the pixels aka screen door effect for over a decade and I don't plan to anytime soon.
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I dont see VR being anything other than a niche market in the near future. Frankly there are several hurdles holding its adoption back: cost, ease of access, comfort, technology, software, etc.

Having said that, I have played with both headsets and enjoy them. My largest problem before I purchase into the platform is a lack of software support. If I could reliably play VR with my backlog of games it would be and instant purchase for me, but as of now most of the titles are very casual in nature.
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VR will continue to advance until we get the Holodeck that will be indistinguishable from real life.


Wow,I wonder how long that will take?For a virtual opponent to be able to actually hit you and knock you down.

Vr may come a long way,but is something like the holodeck even remotely possible?

What will be indistinguishable from real life?Anything more than what you can see?
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People that have doubts about vr have clearly not tried it...yes costs are high, but they will come down as it becomes more widely used and better tech. Vr is not a gimmick like 3d gaming or curved TVs, vr is the future.
It works incredibly well, the immersion when using it on flight sims, and driving games like assetto corsa is mind blowing. I love good graphics but am willing to take the hit to use vr in these games! As PCs get more powerful, vr will only get better and better resolution.
The whole room thing is great fun and is an amazing feeling but I think that will die down like the Nintendo Wii....let's face it, we play games to sit around for hours and have fun whilst relaxing, not to stand around and jump about for 20 mins. Personally i think the games that will keep vr alive will be the ones that keep it traditional, sitting on your ass!
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People that have doubts about vr have clearly not tried it...yes costs are high, but they will come down as it becomes more widely used and better tech. Vr is not a gimmick like 3d gaming or curved TVs, vr is the future.
It works incredibly well, the immersion when using it on flight sims, and driving games like assetto corsa is mind blowing. I love good graphics but am willing to take the hit to use vr in these games! As PCs get more powerful, vr will only get better and better resolution.
The whole room thing is great fun and is an amazing feeling but I think that will die down like the Nintendo Wii....let's face it, we play games to sit around for hours and have fun whilst relaxing, not to stand around and jump about for 20 mins. Personally i think the games that will keep vr alive will be the ones that keep it traditional, sitting on your ass!

In my opinion the "sitting experience" is more similar to 3D glasses and such than the standing experience. The ability to walk even few meters is supposed to be the thing that properly tricks your brain into actually believing that this is the thing. I have not tried either but I have been keeping an eye on it since beginning.
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I think every VR advocate is forgetting how utterly important directing is for videogames. So you want to play your race sim or shooter in VR? Go on. What are you going to do with most of the other genres?

Regular people have a hard time getting past the soap opera effect of HFR content and you want to push VR down their throats. You're delusional.
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You people that are saying 'ONCE YOU TRY IT YOULL NEVER GO BACK' sound like the aliens from invasion of the body snatchers or something. The **** isn't that cool. It's a gimmick the same way the Nintendo wii was a gimmick
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I think every VR advocate is forgetting how utterly important directing is for videogames. So you want to play your race sim or shooter in VR? Go on. What are you going to do with most of the other genres?

Regular people have a hard time getting past the soap opera effect of HFR content and you want to push VR down their throats. You're delusional.

 

The same thing I do with my sim racing gear.  Put it aside and use a proper method to play those other games.  VR isn't a full monitor replacement (at least not right now, may be an alternative in the future), it's just a different approach.  There are times i'll switch between my monitor and VIVE (Racing sims), basically the same reason I go from playing on my 28" 4K monitor to a 60"4k TV in the living room, to get a different perspective (regardless of game).

 

Don't think anyone is trying to "push VR down anyones throats" as much as people saying it's just a gimmick.  Which to some may very well be a gimmick, that's fine too.  It looks more or less like uninformed users are throwing their opinions.

 

Those of us who do own an HMD are just passionate about it. (For the price of entry you better be! lol) kinda sucks when someone who hasn't tried it comes in uninformed and slanging negatives. To each their own.  You're either going to like it or not.  It really isn't for everyone.  I'm sure once the cost is reasonable for the mainstream and they iron out the specs for higher resolutions, it may just be another fad like the iPhone. We all know how that went ;)


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You people that are saying 'ONCE YOU TRY IT YOULL NEVER GO BACK' sound like the aliens from invasion of the body snatchers or something. The **** isn't that cool. It's a gimmick the same way the Nintendo wii was a gimmick

Not even close. Don't judge it until u actually tried a Vive. Until then, your opinion is worthless.
     
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