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My Cryorig R1 Ultimate hits those temps when benching (or even just folding) my 4770k at 4.6GHz, but I was also putting 1.324V or so into the core plus a slight increase in ring and VCCin. It would probably run cooler if I delidded but I haven't done such on it yet.

4770K's are a bit of an oddball though, they have quite a bit of variation in both the silicon as the TIM. So its pretty hard to make any conclusions unless both are tested on the same one.

And the R1 is about half the price of this cooler too.
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4770K's are a bit of an oddball though, they have quite a bit of variation in both the silicon as the TIM. So its pretty hard to make any conclusions unless both are tested on the same one.

And the R1 is about half the price of this cooler too.

True enough. I should have mentioned that I was only mentioning such as depending on how you do with the silicon lottery (judging by numbers other benchers have shown, I wasn't so "lucky") such numbers can be relatively easy to obtain, even with a high end air cooler. I suspect that mine is one of the ones that could get a significant boost out of delidding.

90C is also something that's full on full bore 100% load if you let it, and it's pretty much a scenario you'll only ever see if running Folding@Home or BOINC with the program set to use all threads, and at that point if you're pushing the processor that hard many recommend water cooling anyways.
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True enough. I should have mentioned that I was only mentioning such as depending on how you do with the silicon lottery (judging by numbers other benchers have shown, I wasn't so "lucky") such numbers can be relatively easy to obtain, even with a high end air cooler. I suspect that mine is one of the ones that could get a significant boost out of delidding.

90C is also something that's full on full bore 100% load if you let it, and it's pretty much a scenario you'll only ever see if running Folding@Home or BOINC with the program set to use all threads, and at that point if you're pushing the processor that hard many recommend water cooling anyways.

Don't worry, it could always be worse, like mine. tongue.gif
The highest I can get it (quite)stable is 4.5Ghz and that requires nearly 1.4V and at that point, I'm reaching the limits of the TIM. I can get it a little higher, but at that point I'm having thermal issues and those voltages aren't healthy anyway.
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Tweaktown review

Nothing special after all, especially for the asking price.
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Tweaktown review

Nothing special after all, especially for the asking price.

Yup, I was wrong. frown.gif $150 is an insane price for a tower cooler that performs worse than the $55 Thermalright True Spirit 140 (released in 2011) and is a full 9dB louder and, amazingly, weighs 10g more, too. Yeesh. Literally size is all it has going for it, so maybe it'll find a use case in SFF builds.
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Tweaktown review

Nothing special after all, especially for the asking price.

No surprise then.

By and large, surface area is king. Adding a tiny TEC, which is a net increase of heat, to a relatively small heatsink was never going to be useful for anything but light thermal loads.
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Literally size is all it has going for it, so maybe it'll find a use case in SFF builds.

The problem is that the TEC itself must make heat to move heat, so unless you are running a low power part (like a dual core), no small heatsink is going to have enough surplus cooling to handle the CPU and the TEC. Once you get to a certain point, you'd be better off with no TEC at all, and there are other small heatsinks out there that probably perform better.

TECs on air coolers have been done before (Lancer linked the V10 and that was not the first) and they've always been gimmicky.
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The problem is that the TEC itself must make heat to move heat, so unless you are running a low power part (like a dual core), no small heatsink is going to have enough surplus cooling to handle the CPU and the TEC. Once you get to a certain point, you'd be better off with no TEC at all, and there are other small heatsinks out there that probably perform better.

TECs on air coolers have been done before (Lancer linked the V10 and that was not the first) and they've always been gimmicky.

That does make sense. Maybe the only "high performance" TECs where those ancient Peltier ones, that you put *outside* your case.
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