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post #31 of 39
While the answer to question presented in thread title is obviously open air, to me this thread is more about case airflow and supplying components with cool air by keeping their heated exhaust separate from cool intake.

I think we need to draw a line between opinions rather than what is factual and logical. Everything any of us says or thing is influenced by our own opinion .. and almost any opinion can be presented logically. The problem is that often that logic is manipulated / biased to support what is not truly what it means. Data like "gun killing up 2% every year sounds like a big increase. But if the population has increased by 4% each of those same years the gun killing are actually lower per 10000 people than they were before, not higher as it first appears.

Most testing I've seen is done by people having little to now understanding of how to conduct accurate testing.
Case in point is comparing coolers tested in a system using room ambient air temp, not the actual air temp going into cool. (claiming it is a 'real world use' comparison). Sense we do not have an identical system the only real world is the testers.doh.gif
This is not comparing cooler performance. It is comparing the test system's performs with different coolers.

Compound this with the fact many of hthese same people care more about keeping their free sample sources happy so they get more free samples than telling the truth, so their reviews support the manipulation of facts product companies use in advertising .. sometimes blatant lying. We cannot believe but maybe 1% of what we read, see or hear.

"There is no such thing as public opinion. There is only published opinion."
post #32 of 39
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

While the answer to question presented in thread title is obviously open air, to me this thread is more about case airflow and supplying components with cool air by keeping their heated exhaust separate from cool intake.

I think we need to draw a line between opinions rather than what is factual and logical. Everything any of us says or thing is influenced by our own opinion .. and almost any opinion can be presented logically. The problem is that often that logic is manipulated / biased to support what is not truly what it means. Data like "gun killing up 2% every year sounds like a big increase. But if the population has increased by 4% each of those same years the gun killing are actually lower per 10000 people than they were before, not higher as it first appears.

Most testing I've seen is done by people having little to now understanding of how to conduct accurate testing.
Case in point is comparing coolers tested in a system using room ambient air temp, not the actual air temp going into cool. (claiming it is a 'real world use' comparison). Sense we do not have an identical system the only real world is the testers.doh.gif
This is not comparing cooler performance. It is comparing the test system's performs with different coolers.

Compound this with the fact many of hthese same people care more about keeping their free sample sources happy so they get more free samples than telling the truth, so their reviews support the manipulation of facts product companies use in advertising .. sometimes blatant lying. We cannot believe but maybe 1% of what we read, see or hear.

"There is no such thing as public opinion. There is only published opinion."

was this post meant to be in the LGA2011 thread? biggrin.gif
post #33 of 39
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Originally Posted by psyclum View Post

was this post meant to be in the LGA2011 thread? biggrin.gif
No, but most of it is applicable to almost all cooler threads. tongue.gif
post #34 of 39
Thread Starter 
I appreciate all of you giving me input, advice, and feedback.

I can't say that I am 100% sure on the GPU I am going to go with, but I have decided to just keep my current PSU. Yes, I would prefer the overall size of an SFX-L in my current setup. However, I don't feel like paying an extra $25 to essentially "downgrade" the PSU in my build. I feel that my current PSU that was $75 is "better" than the SFX-L offerings that are around $100. I am having zero issues with it, experiencing no coil whine, and the fan is inaudible with my current setup. I can't see returning it for essentially no reason at all. If it was even slightly defective or I had thought about this in the first place it would be a different story.

As for the GPU, I still need to make up my mind on what I am going to get (RX 480, 1060, 1070) before I try to fully decide on what type of card to go with. Obviously availability will make the choice much easier.

I am also considering the Msi 1070 Sea Hawk. I figure the AIO liquid cooler makes the PSU "issue" irrelevant. I just don't know that I want to spend that much, as I am far from a "hardcore" gamer.
post #35 of 39
Thread Starter 
UPDATE:

So my mind was made up for me! I just won an RX 480! AMD was giving away 3x RX 480s on Twitter and they picked me as one of the winners! I planned on ordering a GTX 1060 tomorrow but now that I won the RX 480 I will just stick with that. I'm not a "hardcore gamer" by any means so the RX 480 should be plenty for my usage.
post #36 of 39
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Originally Posted by Techbyte View Post

UPDATE:

So my mind was made up for me! I just won an RX 480! AMD was giving away 3x RX 480s on Twitter and they picked me as one of the winners! I planned on ordering a GTX 1060 tomorrow but now that I won the RX 480 I will just stick with that. I'm not a "hardcore gamer" by any means so the RX 480 should be plenty for my usage.
sell that and multiply your budget for a 1070. lol amd would be pleased with that lachen.gif srsly, rx480 is just the right card for 21:9 1080p


Edited by Klocek001 - 7/18/16 at 11:33am
post #37 of 39
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Klocek001 View Post

sell that and multiply your budget for a 1070. lol amd would be pleased with that lachen.gif

LOL! That would be super shady. AMD sends me a card for free. I turn around and sell it and use the money towards a 1070 / give the money to their competitor.
post #38 of 39
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Originally Posted by Techbyte View Post

LOL! That would be super shady. AMD sends me a card for free. I turn around and sell it and use the money towards a 1070 / give the money to their competitor.
well I wouldn't have a problem with that. how is a gpu different from a vaccum cleaner in that respect?
post #39 of 39
Thread Starter 
I'm just going to stick with the RX 480. I mean, I am getting it for free. lol

One nice thing is that I was already thinking about returning my monitor. I just really don't like it. Maybe 21:9 is not for me. It is a LG 25" 2560x1080 IPS display. I am going to pick up a Samsung 24" or 27" CF390 series. They are modestly curved displays that support FreeSync over HDMI and are 1920x1080 resolution. I feel they are a much better match for the RX 480 given the resolution and FreeSync. I know there are "better" FreeSync displays in their price range with 2ms/144hz but I'm not to fond of TN panels. Also, the RX 480 isn't exactly top end and 60FPS is probably more realistic in most titles.

Definitely off topic, but what do you think about a 27" 1920x1080 display? Too big for that resolution? I think the 24" may "look" better.
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