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Originally Posted by NYU87 View Post

Good explanation from the source.

Sorry but I don't believe a Corsair AX1500i drooped to 11.4v on the 12v rail.
post #92 of 139
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Originally Posted by Yttrium View Post

consistend power draw and spiking are two different things. You can't take OC into account as thats completely on the user. ( plus every oc'd card pulls way beyond spec as well ) only stock crossfire scenario should be taken into consideration.

1) the 480 doen't generate nearly as bad of power spikes like the asus 960 strix (220 watt spikes consistently) which hasn't received any complaints. so just ignore power spikes for now.

2) consistend, or average, watt trough pcie. people have been running heavely OC'd crossfire/sli setups for years without motherboards blowing out. Even lower quality mobo's should be fine.

3) if the max standard is 66watf then the 960 mentioned has also failed specs. also, specs isn't everything, motherboards can set higher limits trough software/hardware if needed.

Despite all this, MAYBE dual 480's on a cheap mobo will cause your computer to shut off, in that case, no harm is done.
Maybe you should get more info ??
Same tests as for RX480.
1. not true, card TDP 120W, peaking 110W, see https://youtu.be/ZjAlrGzHAkI?t=28m42s
2. not true, most of the graphics cards keep the wattage on pcie low and mostly pull the watts from the psu connectors(if they have any)
3. not true, its pulling max 30W from pcie slot, see https://youtu.be/ZjAlrGzHAkI?t=28m57s

The talk about strix 960 starts here:


Biased fanboys here in this thread rofl...
Edited by fat4l - 7/2/16 at 5:03am
post #93 of 139
Lol ... Pathetic tries to ruin 480's launch. Even the greenest fans around here know it. They have reasoning capabilities too, however silly it may sound ;D
post #94 of 139
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Originally Posted by BillOhio View Post

Am I the only guy LOL'ing about the dude in the OP who's calling a lawyer over a motherboard? laughingsmiley.gif

People have sued for a lot less. Damaged motherboard isnt something to laugh at.
post #95 of 139
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Originally Posted by fat4l View Post

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Originally Posted by Yttrium View Post

consistend power draw and spiking are two different things. You can't take OC into account as thats completely on the user. ( plus every oc'd card pulls way beyond spec as well ) only stock crossfire scenario should be taken into consideration.

1) the 480 doen't generate nearly as bad of power spikes like the asus 960 strix (220 watt spikes consistently) which hasn't received any complaints. so just ignore power spikes for now.

2) consistend, or average, watt trough pcie. people have been running heavely OC'd crossfire/sli setups for years without motherboards blowing out. Even lower quality mobo's should be fine.

3) if the max standard is 66watf then the 960 mentioned has also failed specs. also, specs isn't everything, motherboards can set higher limits trough software/hardware if needed.

Despite all this, MAYBE dual 480's on a cheap mobo will cause your computer to shut off, in that case, no harm is done.
Maybe you should get more info ??
Same tests as for RX480.
1. not true, card TDP 120W, peaking 110W, see https://youtu.be/ZjAlrGzHAkI?t=28m42s
2. not true, most of the graphics cards keep the wattage on pcie low and mostly pull the watts from the psu connectors(if they have any)
3. not true, its pulling max 30W from pcie slot, see https://youtu.be/ZjAlrGzHAkI?t=28m57s

The talk about strix 960 starts here:




Biased fanboys here in this thread rofl...

Dont quite know how toms hardware got a different picture, Either the spikes didn't show up in Pcper's test or toms hardware is broken.
same for you claim about not peaking above 110watt, dont know why PCper didn't show the same spikes, both sites show a completely different picture.

I must have confused the 960 for another card that pulled 75~ watt from the mobo, I'm sure there is one around somewhere anyway I dont want to nitpick.

"Problems at the Motherboard Slot
We’ve got to go back to the foundations article mentioned above to put the measurements at separate rails into context. This is because the otherwise very good Asus GTX 960 Strix leaves the motherboard connector to deal with unprecedented unfiltered power spikes all on its own"
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960,4038-8.html

and I thought 75watt was the standard, Where does 66watt come from?
post #96 of 139
66W 12V, 75W 12V+3.3V.
post #97 of 139
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Originally Posted by Yttrium View Post

Dont quite know how toms hardware got a different picture, Either the spikes didn't show up in Pcper's test or toms hardware is broken.
same for you claim about not peaking above 110watt, dont know why PCper didn't show the same spikes, both sites show a completely different picture.

I must have confused the 960 for another card that pulled 75~ watt from the mobo, I'm sure there is one around somewhere anyway I dont want to nitpick.

"Problems at the Motherboard Slot
We’ve got to go back to the foundations article mentioned above to put the measurements at separate rails into context. This is because the otherwise very good Asus GTX 960 Strix leaves the motherboard connector to deal with unprecedented unfiltered power spikes all on its own"
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-960,4038-8.html

and I thought 75watt was the standard, Where does 66watt come from?
Pcper is using better technique. Thats about it.
75w is for both 12 and 3.3v together
post #98 of 139
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Originally Posted by fat4l View Post

Maybe you should get more info ??
Same tests as for RX480.
1. not true, card TDP 120W, peaking 110W, see https://youtu.be/ZjAlrGzHAkI?t=28m42s
2. not true, most of the graphics cards keep the wattage on pcie low and mostly pull the watts from the psu connectors(if they have any)
3. not true, its pulling max 30W from pcie slot, see https://youtu.be/ZjAlrGzHAkI?t=28m57s

The talk about strix 960 starts here:


Biased fanboys here in this thread rofl...

Biased fanboys? Lets go ahead and take a quick peek at your perceived fanboyism:
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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So guys I decided to go with 1080 smile.gif

I'm not sure if it's worth to pay the premium for AIB cards or it's fine to go with reference design and much cheaper.....redface.gif
Hmmmm.

I wonder what cards have the ability to go over 1.25v voltage lock? Maybe kingpin ?
Which one is the best to go with if I'm custom EK watercooling it ? thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by fat4l View Post

yeah it was overheating. They should have learned from that and make a better cooler but they have chosen to fail again.
All these "missing stuff" is marketing crap... Nothing else. 90% of ppl wont even know whats that for .. rolleyes.gif

More ram? you wont need more ram if you cant turn the settings to ultra/run high resolutions because the card is not powerfull enough. This is 1080p card and in this resolution you wont pass 4GB... rolleyes.gif mark.

If they are still selling 970 for 2-5 weeks, thats fine. I dont see a reason not to buy it if its for the same price, NEW.
970 new is even cheaper than this 8GB 480...
MSI 970 - 210£ https://www.overclockers.co.uk/msi-geforce-gtx-970-oc-reference-fan-4096mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-279-ms.html
Powercolor 480 8GB - 219£ https://www.overclockers.co.uk/powercolor-radeon-rx-480-8192mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-gx-187-pc.html
I just lol....Both new cards.
Or you can have this asus strix for 229£ with 20£ cashback so 209£ -https://www.overclockers.co.uk/asus-geforce-gtx-970-directcu-ii-oc-strix-4096mb-gddr5-pci-express-graphics-card-20-pounds-cashback-gx-352-as.html
Well as I mentioned above, the main important thing is ...the PRICE NOW. Now 970 costs the same(even cheaper) as 480....and im talking about a NEW card. See above.
..and 4GB for 1080p is nto an issue at all.

Also....power consumption of RX480 is the same as GTX 1080 while GTX 1080 delivers +100% more performance...LOL LOL LOL. This 480 is super power efficient ? Wake up and look at 1080/1070.


Cmon fanboys, stop being defensive. This card is not what they promised us...
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50Mhz extra going from stock to aio cooler. Not impressive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kjIHgq2zBU
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The problem of the card is "hidden" throttling ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Oc7zXhzlzU

If you increase power limit but leave all the clocks @stock, you will get much more performacne but ....wattage will increase over the spec. This may hurt you motherboard .....
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-RX-480-Review-Polaris-Promise/PC-Perspective-Advanced-Power-Testin
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/Power-Consumption-Concerns-Radeon-RX-480
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Originally Posted by fat4l View Post

Some "light" for all of you..
1425/8800MHz
This basically matches gtx 970 on ~1550/8200MHz
Obviously yo ucant expect this on reference amd card.








Source:
http://videocardz.com/61697/how-fast-radeon-rx-480-can-be


I think this may be interesting:
PowerColor Radeon RX 480 DEVIL

thumb.gif



But also....
GTX 1060...~15% more performance than RX480(yeah nvidia slides but still)
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of course it is.
If HD6850 could cost $179 and have this cooler then why this rx 480 couldn't have it as well? Rx480 aluminium crappy cooler looks like from year 2005.


Now.....you say 200$ card. Well GTx 970 is NOW a $200 card too. Do we get more from it? yes. Its the obvious choice!
Now ...what this "$200" card has to do with architecture and power consumption ? Nothing. I was talking all about crappy architecture. Amd is way behind nvidia in terms of architecture. Facts.
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Like rly guys ?

This card is total garbage. A lot of ppl, including me, was expecting(and hoping) for more from AMD.
In terms of architecture, amd is about 2 years behind Nvidia. Sad facts....

In terms of power they matched Nvidia 970(released 2 years ago) and newly released 1080. YES 1080 has the same power draw but ~double the performance!!!
It even exceeds the power draw limits for pcie slot and 6 pin which may damage your motherboard permanently:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10,4616-9.html.

In terms of performance they matched Nvidia 970 and AMD 390.


So basically....we have AMD "GTX 970" aka AMD RX 480....after 2 years.


Overclocking ? Non-existant. 5%-7% extra ? Seriously?

In terms of money, thats a fail too. Gibbo said already, AMD will not produce more 4GB versions(those cheap ones) so either you buy now or you will have to pay more money for 8GB version. Now the question is, do u really need 8GB with such low performance if you wont utilize it ? No.... So you end up paying more for nothing.
That means, that now this new RX480 8GB costs the same as 2 years old GTX 970.

Now...as we already said, 970 have the same performance as RX480. However if we look at overclocking this is where the story changes. You can get 1500MHz easy with gtx 970. Thats ~25% OC...and not this crappy 5%.
GTX 970 clearly wins.....

...... lets not forget temps. Whooooping 95C rolleyes.gif



Vid for this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLErWhLzZ3c


And no I'm no ones fanboy. I had 295X2, Asus ares 3(RRP 1400£!) and more amd cards and even Freesync Benq XL2730Z monitor. Amd cost me a lot of money and I lost faith in it. I moved to the green team....the grass is greener there! thumb.gif
Dont waste your money on bad products.

Then there is the spamming of this video.
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Maybe you should get more info ??
Same tests as for RX480.
1. not true, card TDP 120W, peaking 110W, see https://youtu.be/ZjAlrGzHAkI?t=28m42s
2. not true, most of the graphics cards keep the wattage on pcie low and mostly pull the watts from the psu connectors(if they have any)
3. not true, its pulling max 30W from pcie slot, see https://youtu.be/ZjAlrGzHAkI?t=28m57s

The talk about strix 960 starts here:


Biased fanboys here in this thread rofl...
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And you Mr. Clever guy should maybe watch the whole video and read all the stories/reviews about it and realize that AMD is exceeding the power limits even at stock.
My gooood... rolleyes.gif

Soem ppl just feel the need to protect the company at all costs...

16min, 6s
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And you Mr. Clever guy should maybe watch the whole video and read all the stories/reviews about it and realize that AMD is exceeding the power limits even at stock.
My gooood... rolleyes.gif

Soem ppl just feel the need to protect the company at all costs...

16min, 6s
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yeah guys go and watch this.
It's pretty much detailed and it explains a lot.

This RX480 exceeds the max Amps of pcie by 50% when oced lol...

http://www.overclock.net/t/1604683/amd-forum-reports-of-rx-480-damaging-pci-e-slots/80#post_25312588

So i would conclude you are coming across as a Nvidia fanboy, but that's not accurate. You are someone who has bought some of the most expensive GPU currently and has previously bought cards like Asus Ares. I think your issue is your and enthusiast who looks down on lower end cards. with the exception of promoting the GTX 970 which leans you toward Nvidia fanboy zone.

I have to ask though why you care so much about hating on the RX 480 when you have a 1080gtx? It's obvious you were never going to buy it.

Edited for grammar crackers yum yum.
Edited by dagget3450 - 7/2/16 at 12:24pm
post #99 of 139
^ lol. he gotta work for that 1080. tongue.gif
post #100 of 139
Well i guess its a good thing i decided to grab a 390 Strix instead of waiting for a 480. I was in the check,out process with amazon for one and right when i hit checkout it said the item i am buying is no longer avalible. Ended up gettimg the. 380 Strix 8GB for only $255 shipped. Im a happy camper!

Hope this all blows over and ots just people trolling. Anyone can lie on the internet... and amd doesnt need this right now.
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