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Originally Posted by Blameless View Post

Yep.

No guarantees, but water, in and of itself, really won't harm much of anything. As you say, best to clean the PSU and let it dry completely then see if it works...and chances are it will, if it was simply shorted.
I am aware of the topology of a PSU.

There is no component within a PSU that is going to be harmed by being submerged in water, in and of itself, and I regularly clean PSUs (and other components) by rinsing them.

Except it wasnt just water,there was all kinds of detritus in that water. You people are acting like its no thing but did anyone of you ask as to the OP's ability or of his awareness of just how bad a PSU can mess him up? No.

There are plenty of places that detritus can have a build up in that PSU that a simple rinse wont shift and you are going to recommend him just to poke around in it to see.....such hubris gets people hurt.
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IF you can afford a new PSU go with it and no worries.
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Except it wasnt just water,there was all kinds of detritus in that water. You people are acting like its no thing but did anyone of you ask as to the OP's ability or of his awareness of just how bad a PSU can mess him up? No.

There are plenty of places that detritus can have a build up in that PSU that a simple rinse wont shift and you are going to recommend him just to poke around in it to see.....such hubris gets people hurt.

There is almost certainly no charge remaining in any of the caps after having been submerged in water and then unplugged for several days, and there is essentially zero risk involved in opening up the PSU to thoroughly hose it down, if that's what needs to be done to get it clean.

Perhaps I've been making too many assumptions about the OP's knowledge and I acquiesce that the OP should not be tampering with a PSU that was recently plugged in without ensuring it's been discharged first.
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There is almost certainly no charge remaining in any of the caps after having been submerged in water and then unplugged for several days, and there is essentially zero risk involved in opening up the PSU to thoroughly hose it down, if that's what needs to be done to get it clean.

Perhaps I've been making too many assumptions about the OP's knowledge and I acquiesce that the OP should not be tampering with a PSU that was recently plugged in without ensuring it's been discharged first.

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If it was anything else then I would certainly recommend to go with the hose off approach,PSU's....I would have a crack at it and have done before but I certainly dont recommend it to anyone else based purely on the risks attached.

You are a savvy operator,that doesnt necessarily equate to everyone else having the same competence.
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Actually,you are very wrong ...

Sorry but no, I'm not. Been washing PSUs for years without a single failure. The trick is clean water followed by a thorough drying up.

Are you hydrophobic or something? biggrin.gif
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Sorry but no, I'm not. Been washing PSUs for years without a single failure. The trick is clean water followed by a thorough drying up.

Are you hydrophobic or something? biggrin.gif

From what I gathered, they believe the PSU would suffer from corrosion regardless of how you dry it. How quick does corrosion develop? I don't know, but I don't believe it is in the matter of minutes. I would guess that as long as you wash it and dry it up in the same day as the flood, or perhaps the next day is ok as well, you won't be seeing any corrosion.
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From what I gathered, they believe the PSU would suffer from corrosion regardless of how you dry it. How quick does corrosion develop? I don't know, but I don't believe it is in the matter of minutes. I would guess that as long as you wash it and dry it up in the same day as the flood, or perhaps the next day is ok as well, you won't be seeing any corrosion.

Usually the chassis and some screws are the only thing made of ferrous metal that will corrode in water, and unless it's been sitting damp for days this usually isn't going to be a serious problem. It doesn't take that long to dry a PSU in the right environment, but if you just take one that was submerged and set it on a table in a basement for two weeks, then yeah, there could be corrosion issues.

Anyway, the impression I got from B Negative is that he was worried about the OP trying to wash a PSU that was recently powered, trying to power one that was recently washed, or one that wasn't cleaned thoroughly enough to get potentially conductive debris out of it. It didn't seem like he was saying that someone who knows what they were doing couldn't dismantle, throughly wash, then quickly and completely dry a PSU, then have it work, safely, the vast majority of the time...just that it was a bad idea to assume the OP would know what to do to not risk frying the PSU or electrocute themselves in the the process.
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I think I'd hose it down and then maybe pour a $2 bottle of alcohol on it and let it sit for about a week. The alcohol might not accomplish much other than making its way into some of the nooks and crannies and displacing the water and then evaporating quicker than the water would.
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Usually the chassis and some screws are the only thing made of ferrous metal that will corrode in water, and unless it's been sitting damp for days this usually isn't going to be a serious problem. It doesn't take that long to dry a PSU in the right environment, but if you just take one that was submerged and set it on a table in a basement for two weeks, then yeah, there could be corrosion issues.

Anyway, the impression I got from B Negative is that he was worried about the OP trying to wash a PSU that was recently powered, trying to power one that was recently washed, or one that wasn't cleaned thoroughly enough to get potentially conductive debris out of it. It didn't seem like he was saying that someone who knows what they were doing couldn't dismantle, throughly wash, then quickly and completely dry a PSU, then have it work, safely, the vast majority of the time...just that it was a bad idea to assume the OP would know what to do to not risk frying the PSU or electrocute themselves in the the process.

Exactly this.

PSU's can and have killed. People need to understand this before recommending something of this nature.
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get a hair dryer and blow that thing on high and hot for maybe an hr or 2 and test it somewhere or toss it for safety reason/not adventurous and just get a new psu
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