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They are probably the same cards with different bios. Probably could flash the higher OC on the lower cards.
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My MSI Seahawk EK will boost up to 2126-2138 while gaming (2126 is the lowest I've seen it with my current settings).

Given this is a watercooled part and it doesn't go above 42 degrees under full load, but still, I'm very happy with it. I can't seem to get it any higher though. Once I go to +50% core voltage it maxes out at 1.075v. Going up to +100% volatage nets the same effective voltage :/
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post #133 of 218
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Originally Posted by ikjadoon View Post

Sure, true. But it's just normal binning, as always. The only difference is that because demand is so high and supply is so low, the AIB partners are keeping their cards extra close to their chest (pun intended).

Have we ever had a NVIDIA x80 card still out of stock months after launch? I can't remember one.

If I was an AIB partner, I'd be planning very carefully how to maximize profits with all this great demand. And I know I'd be losing $100+ on every GTX 1080 SC that could hit 2100MHz stable....because that could've got me a lot more money as a Classified or Kingpin.

In other words...silicon lottery only is a lottery when the number of units is so high, it becomes random. We are nowhere near that stage in quantity, IMO.
bahahah, well, not bad at all.

Gaming Z with 2050 to 2100Mhz in-game: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-msi-geforce-gtx-1080-gaming-z-review
Gaming Z with 2050 to 2100MHz in-game & 2164MHz max boost: http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_geforce_gtx_1080_gaming_z_8g_review,39.html

Lines up just right. NVIDIA wasn't binning. It's just that everyone else was. tongue.gif

I'm not sure. The mode average I've seen on Founders Edition is still higher frown.gif
post #134 of 218
Damn you know things just got real when dude stops talking about the mean and starts dropping the mode hammer. tongue.gif
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Damn you know things just got real when dude stops talking about the mean and starts dropping the mode hammer. tongue.gif

No matter which average I use with the data pointsI have available, the Founders Edition is in the lead. The reason I talk about the mode is simple. When picking a card based on its boost speed, the factor that you should be taking into consideration is the speed you're most likely to see, which is the mode. Mean can be skewed by one extreme high or extreme low. Median can also be skewed. Take a look here.

1,878
2,106
2,112
2,150
2,150
2,150
2,150
2,150
2,166

Mean is 2,112, the mode is 2,150. Buying a random card based onthe above, you're more than 50 % likely to get a card that does 2,150 MHz.
post #136 of 218
I prefer the whole 95% within 2σ thing wink.gif Just yanking yer chains. your rationale for using mode makes sense. I really dislike using mean myself since extremes at either end can really skew the mean, especially if you have small sample size.

What happened to that 1878 card? Was that just a dud or was that one of those $609 1080s?
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I prefer the whole 95% within 2σ thing wink.gif Just yanking yer chains. your rationale for using mode makes sense. I really dislike using mean myself since extremes at either end can really skew the mean, especially if you have small sample size.

What happened to that 1878 card? Was that just a dud or was that one of those $609 1080s?

All good smile.gif The numbers above were used for illustrative purposes only. I'm sitting alone at a restaurant at the moment while the fiance gets waxed, so I don't have the actual figures at hand. There was one REALLY bad card that barely topped 1,900 MHz though, an EVGA SC. It was an exception though, other SCs clocked higher. I'm therefore saying it was a dud.
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If you have access to more samples, it'd be interesting to see what the spread ends up being, and what the actual distribution looks like. Wonder if an early 16nm FF process means more variation than desired. (although yeah, hard to mitigate the effects of silicon lottery unless you test hundreds of samples)
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I got to 2114 with my ftw. Temps restricted it from keeping it for long though. Gonna have to wc it.
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So I just ordered two Asus 1080 FE. I wanted the Zotac Amp! Extreme but it was out of stock. Hell everything else was and the FE was actually cheaper than most but around the same price as the Amp! Extreme. Seems I haven't made a bad choice right? In the reviews I read the Amp! Extreme seem to be by far the best out of the box but apparently there is a high chance the FE will clock higher? If so what are the temps and noise level for a FE OC?
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