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My sample size is a little over 60 and fairly controlled - same hardware, same Windows installation, same room temperature. I know it's still not big enough, but it's probably one of the biggest single sample sizes we have to work with. Based on it, FE is clocking highest. Other cards are backing down on the boost or crashing before FE.

I have it on good authority that the Lightning series is dead.

The worst FE I've seen has done a little over 2,030, but the average has been 2,150 (so many have done 2,150 I almost feel they been binned for that exact speed biggrin.gif ).

I have seen one G1 Gaming clock higher that 2,150 MHz (although there have been FEs that clock higher that the G1), but it was the exception rather than the rule.

I should probably plot my results on a graph somehow.

Sorry I missed this reply; OCN's forum software is slowly dying, I think, haha.

No, I agree. You have, by far, the biggest I've seen. But, I was thinking more sample sizes of the higher AIB bins, Gaming Z or Classified cards.

Lightning is dead? frown.gif Hmm...well, maybe NVIDIA started to put their foot down with the Green Light program.

Out of curiosity, I was having a debate with a friend. Is the GreenLight program a sign that GPUs degrade much faster than CPUs, in terms of voltage/temperature-degradation? Intel nor AMD have ever limited CPU VCore.

Wow...so, most FEs are actually really good. I thought there must've been some duds in there....that is just funky, funky, stuff. frown.gif
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Sorry I missed this reply; OCN's forum software is slowly dying, I think, haha.

No, I agree. You have, by far, the biggest I've seen. But, I was thinking more sample sizes of the higher AIB bins, Gaming Z or Classified cards.

Lightning is dead? frown.gif Hmm...well, maybe NVIDIA started to put their foot down with the Green Light program.

Out of curiosity, I was having a debate with a friend. Is the GreenLight program a sign that GPUs degrade much faster than CPUs, in terms of voltage/temperature-degradation? Intel nor AMD have ever limited CPU VCore.

Wow...so, most FEs are actually really good. I thought there must've been some duds in there....that is just funky, funky, stuff. frown.gif

I dunno about degradation of performance by my own experience. I have two OG Titans with modified bios' that I have absolutely thrashed (up to 1.45V and 1330MHz) over three plus years and they still perform flawlessly to this day. Granted those aren't 24/7 overclocks and they've always been under water but they still OC and run stable the same now as when new. Well, they actually OC higher now than they did when new as it took a while to get voltage control.
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Sorry I missed this reply; OCN's forum software is slowly dying, I think, haha.

No, I agree. You have, by far, the biggest I've seen. But, I was thinking more sample sizes of the higher AIB bins, Gaming Z or Classified cards.

Lightning is dead? frown.gif Hmm...well, maybe NVIDIA started to put their foot down with the Green Light program.

Out of curiosity, I was having a debate with a friend. Is the GreenLight program a sign that GPUs degrade much faster than CPUs, in terms of voltage/temperature-degradation? Intel nor AMD have ever limited CPU VCore.

Wow...so, most FEs are actually really good. I thought there must've been some duds in there....that is just funky, funky, stuff. frown.gif

I dunno about degradation of performance by my own experience. I have two OG Titans with modified bios' that I have absolutely thrashed (up to 1.45V and 1330MHz) over three plus years and they still perform flawlessly to this day. Granted those aren't 24/7 overclocks and they've always been under water but they still OC and run stable the same now as when new. Well, they actually OC higher now than they did when new as it took a while to get voltage control.

Right. LTT did a video on degradation and compared what they claimed was a "thrashed" 480 (might have been slightly different model, but around that timeframe) with a new-in-box model from the EVGA warehouse (new old stock.) Outcome? No difference in performance.
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what wold be the best choice. 2 1080s in sli or the new titan XP?
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Sorry I missed this reply; OCN's forum software is slowly dying, I think, haha.

No, I agree. You have, by far, the biggest I've seen. But, I was thinking more sample sizes of the higher AIB bins, Gaming Z or Classified cards.

Lightning is dead? frown.gif Hmm...well, maybe NVIDIA started to put their foot down with the Green Light program.

Out of curiosity, I was having a debate with a friend. Is the GreenLight program a sign that GPUs degrade much faster than CPUs, in terms of voltage/temperature-degradation? Intel nor AMD have ever limited CPU VCore.

Wow...so, most FEs are actually really good. I thought there must've been some duds in there....that is just funky, funky, stuff. frown.gif

No problem smile.gif

My sample size is of all cards, not just FEs. It includes one Gaming Z, a bunch of G1s and Xtreme Gamings, a few SCs, and some Strix cards.

Lightning being dead is more a move by MSI than anything else, they don't believe that the Lightning brand is profitable anymore.

Green Light is a program whereby NVIDIA covers the warranty costs of GPUs that die. Anything clocked outside of the Green Light limitations means costs get carried by the AIB partner.

As for some FEs being duds, it's entirely possible. Even though my sample size is quite large, it covers a minuscule fraction of a percentage of all cards in existence.
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Not GTX 1070s, but the next batch to bin.

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what wold be the best choice. 2 1080s in sli or the new titan XP?

Depends how much you like SLI smile.gif

You are running a single 1440P GSync monitor so one strong card should be plenty.
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There is absolutely no headroom with the 1080 (and Pascal in general) due to Boost 3.0 so the best course of action for this card is to get the cheapest AIB card you can stand the look of. Classy, Gaming, Windforce, it doesn't matter. non-reference PCB doesn't improve clockspeeds nor does extra power so why spend more. And don't even get me started on the ridiculous FE pricing. That said it does seem to me that the FE seems to clock the best of all of them so far but that $700 price is just stupid...
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There is absolutely no headroom with the 1080 (and Pascal in general) due to Boost 3.0 so the best course of action for this card is to get the cheapest AIB card you can stand the look of. Classy, Gaming, Windforce, it doesn't matter. non-reference PCB doesn't improve clockspeeds nor does extra power so why spend more. And don't even get me started on the ridiculous FE pricing. That said it does seem to me that the FE seems to clock the best of all of them so far but that $700 price is just stupid...

One reason you'd be spending more is for cooling. You can get much better cooling than what MSI Armor and perhaps ASUS Strix GTX 1080s have to offer. But cooling is only worth so much though. The EVGA FTW has one of the best coolers and a good price, same for the Gigabyte, although I've seen an alarming number of comments from FTW owners about instability and artifacts at modest clock speeds (~2050 MHz and 11000 MHz memory).
 
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One reason you'd be spending more is for cooling. You can get much better cooling than what MSI Armor and perhaps ASUS Strix GTX 1080s have to offer. But cooling is only worth so much though. The EVGA FTW has one of the best coolers and a good price, same for the Gigabyte, although I've seen an alarming number of comments from FTW owners about instability and artifacts at modest clock speeds (~2050 MHz and 11000 MHz memory).

Good point, though there is always room for blower style coolers for those who don't want the heat exhausted in their cases. Considering pricing of this card (and availability) there's not much reason to go with one over another. Just get what you can get and you'll be performing within 99.9% of every other 1080 out there for the most part...
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