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Anyone notice the prices going up even more lately? B&H raised their prices yesterday, with the Amp Extreme going for $740 instead of $720 and the MSI Gaming X 8G going for $760 instead of $720 (or around that).

But the Gigabyte G1 Gaming is staying rock solid at $650 and seems to offer the superior value at the moment. But having used the Gigabyte 980 Ti G1 since launch (after multiple RMA's), I honestly am afraid of going with Gigabyte again. Even though it was a solid overclocker, it suffered from tons of minor problems (such as card refusing to ever revert back to an idle state). Kind of a noisy card too. Not a fan of the noise signature on the G1 cards.

I ended up biting the bullet and paying the premium for the MSI Gaming X 8G. Seems to have a lot of acclaim for being silent and benchmarks very competently out of the box, and that sounds perfect to me. Just hope there's not much audible coil whine! I'm already feeling buyers remorse...for how much I paid, this card better have decent QC.
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Anyone notice the prices going up even more lately? B&H raised their prices yesterday, with the Amp Extreme going for $740 instead of $720 and the MSI Gaming X 8G going for $760 instead of $720 (or around that).

But the Gigabyte G1 Gaming is staying rock solid at $650 and seems to offer the superior value at the moment. But having used the Gigabyte 980 Ti G1 since launch (after multiple RMA's), I honestly am afraid of going with Gigabyte again. Even though it was a solid overclocker, it suffered from tons of minor problems (such as card refusing to ever revert back to an idle state). Kind of a noisy card too. Not a fan of the noise signature on the G1 cards.

I ended up biting the bullet and paying the premium for the MSI Gaming X 8G. Seems to have a lot of acclaim for being silent and benchmarks very competently out of the box, and that sounds perfect to me. Just hope there's not much audible coil whine! I'm already feeling buyers remorse...for how much I paid, this card better have decent QC.

Yes with stocks still hard to come by, most places who priced the cards at MSPR, have raised the prices according to the market.
Eventually the prices will go down once they realised that greediness has its limits.
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Yes with stocks still hard to come by, most places who priced the cards at MSPR, have raised the prices according to the market.
Eventually the prices will go down once they realised that greediness has its limits.
True but I've lost patience tongue.gif Sold my 980 Ti G1 over a month ago. If these cards are still flying out of stock at increasingly marked up MSRP's, I'm a bit worried how long it will be before things change. Wouldn't mind getting a 1070 for the HTPC but not if it's going to be like this...
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But back in the day you had Core, Memory, Shader and more control over voltage. Today you just move a slider here and there and most of the time it just works.
Sure you can go the extra mile and install a modded BIOS (or even mod a BIOS yourself) nVidia inspector etc etc but just the basic normal overclocking has never been as easy as it is now. And with these 1080s its pretty much already hitting its ceiling right out of the box making it a install it and forget it.

For one, shader and core were tied together, with the shaders running at 2x core clock. Eg 720 MHz core = 1,440 MHz shader, if you change one you change the other as well.

I wouldn't say you had more control over voltage, most Fermi cards topped out at 1.212v which was perfectly safe for air cooling.

None of the above ever gave the end user reason to fear killing something. Heck, I ran many a 3DMark2001SE where Nature was just broomsticks everywhere and nothing bad ever happened.

If you want really easy, go further back - 15 years back there were no fan profiles (heck there wasn't even fan speed control), no Boost to worry about, no throttling of any sort, no voltages to worry about, not even driver recovery resetting your clocks. You increased core speed until you got artifacting, then backed off slightly, and then did the same for memory. That was all there was to it for the general populace.
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Best ones are those that do not stutter biggrin.gif

As far as brands go, I think everyone has their own favorite, I certainly do but the cost and performance/price is poor on Paxwell frown.gif
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Ran my Gainward Phoenix at 2151mhz through heaven benchmark with no problems at all. Trying to get it any higher than that will result in artifacts. Appears to overclock better than the previous card i had in my possession, the EVGA SC. It's so strange how sudden the wall appears when trying to overclock. 2151mhz.. no indication of any problems at all.. 2164mhz artifacts.
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Some interesting developments.

On 8 May I said that FE was NVIDIA competing with their partners, not just a reference board. I didn't elaborate as I didn't have anything concrete, at best it was a rumour passed on to me.

Lately I've tested +- 60 GTX 1070s and GTX 1080s and I can't say I'm thrilled with the outcome. Basically without fail, FE cards can hold boost speeds of 60-100 MHz higher than customer cards - I've tested Gigabyte G1 Gaming, Gigabyte Xtreme Gamer, MSI Gaming X, EVGA SC, Asus Strix, and FE cards from both Gigabyte and EVGA.

There is a very definite pattern of FE holding speeds significantly faster than customer cards - I'm talking passing GPUPI32B on a FE at speeds that cause a custom card to instantly fail or go into driver recovery.

There's more though, although this needs more testing so take it with a grain of salt. GPUPI1B is consistently around 150ms faster at the same clock speed on FE than G1 Gaming (the only card I've compared it to so far). I saw this completely by accident and it certainly needs more testing.

All in all, from what I've seen, NVIDIA pulled a real #$%^ move by making the FE untouchable by partner cards :/

I forgot to add - 150ms is huge when consecutive runs are varying by under 30ms.

That means I must buy an FE version and put it under water, right ? smile.gif
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That means I must buy an FE version and put it under water, right ? smile.gif
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More like you should buy this
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-5180-KR

and buy a EKWB for it.
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More like you should buy this
http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=08G-P4-5180-KR

and buy a EKWB for it.

There's no guarantee they didn't use the absolute bottom of the barrel "can't even do 2000 stable" chips for that particular card even though it's reference design.
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