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Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/business/self-driving-tesla-fatal-crash-investigation.html?_r=0
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Federal regulators, who are in the early stages of setting guidelines for autonomous vehicles, have opened a formal investigation into the incident, which occurred on May 7 in Williston, Fla.

In a statement, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said preliminary reports indicated that the crash occurred when a tractor-trailer made a left turn in front of the Tesla, and the car failed to apply the brakes.
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Mr. Brown posted videos of himself riding in autopilot mode. “The car’s doing it all itself,’’ he said in one, smiling as he took his hands from the steering wheel. In another, he praised the system for saving his car from an accident.

No word exactly who is at fault according tot he article. It will be interesting to see what happens going forward with automated cars. Keep in mind, this is only the first fatality. Not the first the crash.
 
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Even when its used inappropriately its still much safer than an unassisted human driver.
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Just saw this on facebook, the news was in turkish and mentioned the tractor-trailer being white, the car couldn't see it because it was too bright. Wow, i just said a car couldn't see. Times are changing.
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Originally Posted by NuclearPeace View Post

Even when its used inappropriately its still much safer than an unassisted human driver.


Perhaps, but the system is clearly flawed if it managed to do something like this. I wouldn't want a self-driving car at the moment, the tech is too early in its life for me to put my own life in its hands.
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i would drive myself and not trust ai with my life
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https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jul/01/tesla-driver-killed-autopilot-self-driving-car-harry-potter

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Baressi, who did not immediately respond to requests for comment, said the Harry Potter movie “was still playing when he died and snapped a telephone pole a quarter mile down the road”. He told the AP, however, that he heard the movie but didn’t see it.

The Florida highway patrol told Reuters that there was a portable DVD player in the vehicle.


This will be interesting....


You ARE supposed to keep eyes on the road and hands on the wheel at all times, the car will slow down if you dont keep you hands up til you put them back.

EDIT:
And the senors couldnt detect the bright sky, uphill, across a WHITE trailer that was above normal road trailer height.
The sensors dont stop or slow for low hanging signs and wires as they create a false positive. Seems the system was working as intended.
Edited by Chachi123 - 7/2/16 at 9:52am
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Perhaps, but the system is clearly flawed if it managed to do something like this. I wouldn't want a self-driving car at the moment, the tech is too early in its life for me to put my own life in its hands.

Yep, but the autopilot system from what I am hearing is supposed to be more of a driver's assist rather than a complete autonomous driving system. The tech is still new and not perfect but stuff like this is very well on track to be normalized.
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I think it's probably stated how autonomous the car is. It shouldn't be like in the movies just yet. So, they're gonna find the driver at fault.
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All current infotainment and driver assist techs have a disclaimer when the car starts up that basically says "Do not let this item distract you. You are still in control and responsible if a crash occurs." I'm pretty sure Tesla has done the same thing with their tech.

I hate to see the loss of life, but this just proves that it is an "assist" feature more than full autonomy. This means that if a crash occurs, it is unfortunately the driver's fault for not paying attention. Only once a car is fully autonomous does the fault move away from the person and to the machine. None of Tesla's current models are fully autonomous.
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Yep, but the autopilot system from what I am hearing is supposed to be more of a driver's assist rather than a complete autonomous driving system. The tech is still new and not perfect but stuff like this is very well on track to be normalized.

It is rated a 2 out of of 4. 4 being fully automated like that DARPA truck that can negotiate rough terrain all on it's own. But we are dealing with people here. People a dumb and complacent as a whole. Most are not like myself and others that look at driving as a serious thing. I am a CDL driver and used to compete in racing events. Driving is a very different thing for me and people with a similar background. It is scary how many people have a cell phone in their hands as they pass me when working. Being up high I can see what everyone is doing in their car. Easily more than half the cars I look down into have a driver texting or doing something on their phones. These are the same people that if had a Tesla or any other car that comes with the same functions will not be watching the road. They will be face down on the phone, computer, or what ever else rather than driving. Unless the cars are fully autonomous, they should not be let into public hands.
 
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