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How about a system that will repeatedly tells you the local traffic laws that you are breaking as you break them?

Oh wait, you cant sell that...


Pretty sure after five minutes i'd pull over and rip said system out.
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Pretty sure after five minutes i'd pull over and rip said system out.

If I had said system on my bike, most likely that system will self suicide after five minutes.
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In 10 years this will be in every single vehicle.

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The tech still has a long way to go, and there's no way in hell I'm giving up either of my cars, they'll never have any of that self-driving crap.
    
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This is the beginning of what will likely be a 10+ year debate between those who want to preserve their driving freedom and those who want to make roads safer for everyone. This happens over and over again yet people still resist progress.
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Dumb person
Dumb action

Blames car

ok friendo.
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This is the beginning of what will likely be a 10+ year debate between those who want to preserve their driving freedom and those who want to make roads safer for everyone. This happens over and over again yet people still resist progress.

I would be fine with self-driving cars if people like me could still drive normally. I just want the idiots who drive under the influence or text and drive to be forced to use self-driving cars, no exceptions. However, there's no way self-driving cars will takeover within 10 years, it's not possible and not everyone is willing/able to buy new cars. I think a system similar to OBD II should be implemented, sensors should be added to all cars that can communicate with self-driving cars.
    
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I disagree myself. Tesla bears some blame to me because it was incredibly irresponsible for them to release this feature before it was ready. They might have legal cover, but their actions are immensely irresponsible.

I do not at all agree with this sentiment.
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Ultimately if the reports of the man being distracted are true, the majority of the blame lies on him.

I agree with this sentiment.

Tesla's solution is driver-assisting, not driver-replacing. It is meant primarily as a safety feature that will help keep your car within its lane, change lanes, and apply the brakes in situations where the car can tell it is in danger and the driver is failing to react. As such, only one of two reasons explains this incident:

1) The driver wasn't paying attention and thus misusing the system
2) The driver was paying attention but also failed to notice this situation

Either one is entirely the driver's fault. Blaming the car and its software is misguided.
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Tesla's solution is driver-assisting, not driver-replacing. It is meant primarily as a safety feature that will help keep your car within its lane, change lanes, and apply the brakes in situations where the car can tell it is in danger and the driver is failing to react. As such, only one of two reasons explains this incident:

1) The driver wasn't paying attention and thus misusing the system
2) The driver was paying attention but also failed to notice this situation

Either one is entirely the driver's fault. Blaming the car and its software is misguided.

Sounds like a stupid system because if the car is doing everything for you, then of course you're going to zone out and fail to react when something happens.

Not only that they can blame the driver if the system fails lol.

Either the system does it all and they are liable, or there should be no system at all.
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Sounds like a stupid system because if the car is doing everything for you, then of course you're going to zone out and fail to react when something happens.

It's really easy. Either you are responsible enough to handle it or you are not. If you are not, do not use it. If you are not and use it anyway, you're at fault by default. If you are and use it, you're still at fault. There's no reasonable scenario here where it can be the car's fault unless it actively does something to put you into more danger than you otherwise would have been. Failing to react to peril is not sufficient basis for blame when we're talking about driver assist.
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Originally Posted by Particle View Post

It's really easy. Either you are responsible enough to handle it or you are not. If you are not, do not use it. If you are not and use it anyway, you're at fault by default. If you are and use it, you're still at fault. There's no reasonable scenario here where it can be the car's fault unless it actively does something to put you into more danger than you otherwise would have been. Failing to react to peril is not sufficient basis for blame when we're talking about driver assist.

Exactly. It's like blaming cruise control for not being able to brake quickly enough.
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