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The discussion was about overhead in DX11.. Where GCN cards keep up with their Maxwell counterparts.

You jumped in with a straw man argument about overclocking and power draw.. I doubt anyone questions the superiority of the 980Ti vs the Fury X.. It's easily one of the most impressive cards released in the last few years, at least when it comes to DX11. DX12 is proving to be better for GCN.
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The discussion was about overhead in DX11.. Where GCN cards keep up with their Maxwell counterparts.

You jumped in with a straw man argument about overclocking and power draw.. I doubt anyone questions the superiority of the 980Ti vs the Fury X.. It's easily one of the most impressive cards released in the last few years, at leased when it comes to DX11. DX12 is proving to be better for GCN.

Yeah GCN has DX11 overhead problems especially 1080p and some games DX12 with even with the fastest CPU. Always have been using too high resolution to notice.
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The discussion was about overhead in DX11.. Where GCN cards keep up with their Maxwell counterparts.

You jumped in with a straw man argument about overclocking and power draw.. I doubt anyone questions the superiority of the 980Ti vs the Fury X.. It's easily one of the most impressive cards released in the last few years, at least when it comes to DX11. DX12 is proving to be better for GCN.

I never participated in that discussion, My reply was simply directed at a point made by another member, that and only that, you are the one who jumped into it. thumb.gif
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Min in benchmark where up like 100% for me. Mostly to do with old CPU but even so its amazing how much difference DX12 makes even with the weak implementation RoTR has.

Yeah, that's a massive difference. Frame drops can ruin a game, can't wait until DX11 is left behind. Vulkan and DX12 may keep my 2600K going for a few more years.. wink.gif
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You missed multiple posts that show GCN keeping up with a large average of games under DX11.
we all saw how well 480 kept up with the little old 970 in DX11 redface.gif


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DX11.. Where GCN cards keep up with their Maxwell counterparts.

I doubt anyone questions the superiority of the 980Ti vs the Fury X..
gj contradicting yourself in your own post thumb.gif
Edited by ChevChelios - 7/3/16 at 3:55pm
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I never participated in that discussion, My reply was simply directed at a point made by another member, that and only that, you are the one who jumped into it. thumb.gif

Which is why i said you used a straw man..

You took his words out of context and ran with them.. Either way, if some of the hyperbolic statements like "AMD is terrible with DX11" are in fact true, and as i and others have show that GCN still keeps up under DX11, then Maxwell and Keplar are going to be decimated when the real DX12 games drop..
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Which is why i said you used a straw man..

You took his words out of context and ran with them.. Either way, if some of the hyperbolic statements like "AMD is terrible with DX11" are in fact true, and as i and others have show that GCN still keeps up under DX11, then Maxwell and Keplar are going to be decimated when the real DX12 games drop..

Out of context? LOL, just go back and read what he wrote in the last few posts of his.
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we all saw how well 480 kept up with the little old 970 in DX11 redface.gif

"kept up" just fine as far as i can tell.. Not bad for a $199 card, 970's were going for over $300 a couple months ago, and probably still will.

Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)



That's also a reference card with a terrible cooler and a ridiculous 6 pin.. Lets see what an apples to apples custom 480 does to a custom 970 with DX11. Under DX12 the 970's competition is around the 380 so that's not really worth talking about.. redface.gif
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gj contradicting yourself in your own post thumb.gif

I never mentioned the Fury X vs 980Ti, neither did anyone else except MR Strawman.. GCN vs Maxwell, as in 980 vs 390x, 970 vs 390, etc. The Fury X and 980Ti are exceptions, the Fury X is a very unbalanced GPU.
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"kept up" just fine as far as i can tell.. Not bad for a $199 card, 970's were going for over $300 a couple months ago, and probably still will.

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That's also a reference card with a terrible cooler and a ridiculous 6 pin.. Lets see what an apples to apples custom 480 does to a custom 970 with DX11. Under DX12 the 970's competition is around the 380 so that's not really worth talking about.. redface.gif
I never mentioned the Fury X vs 980Ti, neither did anyone else except MR Strawman.. GCN vs Maxwell, as in 980 vs 390x, 970 vs 390, etc. The Fury X and 980Ti are exceptions, the Fury X is a very unbalanced GPU.

People suddenly forgot that GTX970 is only 3.5GB card. Also its losing DX12 battle. There is no future for GTX970. Was a good card for those 2 years. Was never really better then Hawaii.
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People suddenly forgot that GTX970 is only 3.5GB card. Also its losing DX12 battle. There is no future for GTX970. Was a good card for those 2 years. Was never really better then Hawaii.

Yup, the 970 was a good card and still is. But people like Chev still trying to recommend the 970 over 480 are being ridiculous, it's irrelevant now, and it has no future on the new API's.. It's done, as is the 390/X etc., If someones in the market for a new midrange card then the 480 is the one to get. Not to mention it's on day one drivers..
Edited by GorillaSceptre - 7/3/16 at 4:24pm
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