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Hello all,

As the title states I need help with choosing components for my first custom water cooling adventure. I have done some extensive research but still have some questions that were left unanswered on other forums, so I decided to make a thread for it all and see what the wonderful community here can come up with.

Now the aim for the build is performance while still being silent (or as close as possible without sacrificing too much cooling power).
With that in mind I have chosen the following components:

Be Quiet! Dark Base Pro 900 purchased
Intel i7 6700k processor purchased
Asus Formula VIII Z170 RGB Motherboard purchased
Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB kit (4x8GB) @ 3200mhz DDR4 memory purchased
Samsung 950 Pro 512GB M.2 SSD purchased
Samsung 850 Evo 1TB SSD purchased
EVGA Supernova 1000 P2 power supply purchased

GPU wise I am slightly undecided. I will be going for a GTX 1080 (maybe 2) but I am not sure if I should just get a FE card with the already existing EK block or wait out of the likes of EVGA Classified or even FTW edition cards with EK blocks for those. From what I have seen in reviews on both YT and various of other forums, people on air are struggling to push their cards much past the 2.1ghz mark, but temperature isn't their issue. So with that in mind, water cooling might not make any difference to it's OC potential, in which case getting an FE card might be the way to go? I guess the EVGA SC ACX card (which is a standard PCB i think) will be the one to pick from as it is cheaper than the standard EVGA FE card. Any input on this would be great.

I am running an Asus PG279Q 165hz panel so reaching above 100fps in most games would be beneficial.


Right then, enough ranting about that, now it's time for the hard part. The water cooling components that I have chosen so far are:

Pump/Res:
Pump: EK Water Blocks EK-D5 PWM G2 Motor (12V DC PWM Pump Motor)
Pump Top: Bitspower D5 / MCP655 Mod Kit V2 - Black Sparkle Finish
Pump Top: Bitspower D5 MOD TOP V2 EXTREME (Acrylic Version)
Res: Bitspower Dual / Single D5 Top Upgrade Kit 250 (Clear Acrylic Cap)
Res Accessories: Bitspower Z-CAP II With G1/4" x 3 (Clear Acrylic Version), Bitspower G1/4" Black Sparkle Aqua-Pipe II
Coolant: Not sure, some sort of Mayhems Pastel fluid

Blocks:
CPU Block - EK Water Blocks EK-Supremacy EVO - Acetal CSQ
GPU Block - 1080 EKWB depending on which 1080 I go for

Radiators/Fans:
Right, looking at the 360 rad roundup here: http://www.xtremerigs.net/2015/02/11/radiator-round-2015/5/

It looks like the best radiators for low RPM fans seem to be the EK XE and the Black Ice SR2 MP. Both scale very well with fan increase and push/pull configurations.

So with that in mind, here comes my next question. My case can accommodate up to a 420mm rad at top and at the front, as well as up to a 280 at the bottom. For total silence, radiator space overkill shouldn't be a problem, as the more rad space should equal lower fan speeds for the same cooling power correct? If so, do I go with 2x 360 or 2x 420 rads? From what I have seen this question would have been easily answered a few years ago as all 140mm static pressure fans were pretty bad. But now a lot of good companies have 140mm fans which don't suck,. stuff like the Noctua NF-A14 2000RPM PWM fans, the Noiseblocker BlackSilentPro's and Noiseblocker Eloops too. I would ideally prefer to go with the Black silent pros as for some reason as much as I love the Eloops they probably won't match my black/grey/monochrome theme in my system?

Fittings/Tubing:
Monsoon acrylic tube 16/13 mm (ID 2.1 OD 5/8) 4x61cm - Clear
Hardline Monsoon 16 / 13mm (ID 1/2 OD 5/8) compression fitting Sixpack - Black Chrome

Now I am not too sure if that's the best acrylic tube to use, it's just the cheapest I found for the amount you get. From what I saw on YT reviews it seems of good quality. The fittings I chose randomly, but I would ideally like to go with bitspower compression fittings instead, just not sure which model exactly would suit. Any input in tubing and fittings would be great!


I think I've covered everything, I am tempted in getting ram blocks because why not, but I don't know yet. So far I will be watercooling the motherboard, CPU and GPU (unless SLI then 2 GPUs).

Thank you for reading through this, any input from people who have already gone through the troubles of learning custom WC will be very greatly appreciated!

- iiNNeX
post #2 of 4
Hi,

If this is your first water cooling build why start with acrylic tubing from what i gather it takes allot of time to build plus its a pain to dissemble and needs prior experience in building wc loops. And its more unforgiving then using classic soft tubing i would recommend starting of with soft tubing much easier to work with and more forgiving suites a person well if one is starting with custom WC.

I also am waiting for the EVGA GTX 1070 sc to be on stock as well as the EVGA X99 FTW-K but it seems they are hard to get by in Europe. The EVGA GTX 1080 sc is reference i called them for intel on stocks as well asking if they are reference the Classified and/or FTW are custom.

The Black Ice SR2 MP is a very good radiator judging from reviews a good choice for good cooling with low rpm fans and also scales well with high rpm and HWL makes one of the cleanest "traditional" radiators out there. I myself made the mistake by only using one Alphacool 360 Monsta for my cpu and gpu and temps are decent but higher then expected with WC and that ś on stock btw. (not gonna make that mistake again) Most people recommend a quality 420 rad which i would recommend. If your planning for a silent pc then maybe add more rad...but not sure about that maybe some one will tell you..Me...i went overkill with a whopper of a radiator Aquacomputer AMS 840 copper rad (6x140) and let those fans run at 500rpm push/pull. Speaking of fans i done my research and the one you posted (brand) is also the one i will buy the 140mm version good static and overall very good performing:

http://www.aquatuning.nl/waterkoeling/axiale-ventilator/7929/noiseblocker-nb-blacksilentpro-pk2-140x140x25mm?c=4951

Here is a review on various 140mm fans to use with radiators and the fan (see above link) is highly recommended plus you get allot of accessoires. Its a bit of an old review but still usable for the above link fan and its black.

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=199499

Hope this helps.
Edited by Cobra26 - 7/2/16 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by Cobra26 View Post

Hi,

If this is your first water cooling build why start with acrylic tubing from what i gather it takes allot of time to build plus its a pain to dissemble and needs prior experience in building wc loops. And its more unforgiving then using classic soft tubing i would recommend starting of with soft tubing much easier to work with and more forgiving suites a person well if one is starting with custom WC.

I also am waiting for the EVGA GTX 1070 sc to be on stock as well as the EVGA X99 FTW-K but it seems they are hard to get by in Europe. The EVGA GTX 1080 sc is reference i called them for intel on stocks as well asking if they are reference the Classified and/or FTW are custom.

The Black Ice SR2 MP is a very good radiator judging from reviews a good choice for good cooling with low rpm fans and also scales well with high rpm and HWL makes one of the cleanest "traditional" radiators out there. I myself made the mistake by only using one Alphacool 360 Monsta for my cpu and gpu and temps are decent but higher then expected with WC and that ś on stock btw. (not gonna make that mistake again) Most people recommend a quality 420 rad which i would recommend. If your planning for a silent pc then maybe add more rad...but not sure about that maybe some one will tell you..Me...i went overkill with a whopper of a radiator Aquacomputer AMS 840 copper rad (6x140) and let those fans run at 500rpm push/pull. Speaking of fans i done my research and the one you posted (brand) is also the one i will buy the 140mm version good static and overall very good performing:

http://www.aquatuning.nl/waterkoeling/axiale-ventilator/7929/noiseblocker-nb-blacksilentpro-pk2-140x140x25mm?c=4951

Here is a review on various 140mm fans to use with radiators and the fan (see above link) is highly recommended plus you get allot of accessoires. Its a bit of an old review but still usable for the above link fan and its black.

http://forums.bit-tech.net/showthread.php?t=199499

Hope this helps.

Hello there, thanks for taking the time to read through all that and reply smile.gif

So as far as tubing goes, I have done water cooling before but just using AIOs, and have even changed the tubing on my old EK predator AIO. So I thought if I am going to do this, might as well do it properly and learn how to bend acrylic. If the bending is too difficult, then I can always use a few more 90 degree fittings to avoid any bends, it ll just add a bit more cost.

As far as radiators, I have posted this thread on another forum too and from what people have shown me it looks like the Black Ice Nemesis GTX 420 is the one to go for unless I need the extra ports on the SR2 MP, otherwise very close performance at a slightly cheaper price.

I plan to have 2x 420 rads and 1x 280. Overkill ? Yes, but I want to make sure the PC is silent in both 1 and 2 GPU configurations with good overclocks. Hell I can even turn all the fans off when browsing the internet at night and the big rads will act as passive coolers smile.gif

Yeah I am definitely going with the noiseblocker black silent pros, but will opt for the PWM version if possible so I can adjust it through the motherboard. Alternatively a fan controller is also on the cards.

Nice radiator man, is it a 840mm unit or you have separate rads to match that ? If so is that external?
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Originally Posted by eXile6 View Post

Hello there, thanks for taking the time to read through all that and reply smile.gif

So as far as tubing goes, I have done water cooling before but just using AIOs, and have even changed the tubing on my old EK predator AIO. So I thought if I am going to do this, might as well do it properly and learn how to bend acrylic. If the bending is too difficult, then I can always use a few more 90 degree fittings to avoid any bends, it ll just add a bit more cost.

As far as radiators, I have posted this thread on another forum too and from what people have shown me it looks like the Black Ice Nemesis GTX 420 is the one to go for unless I need the extra ports on the SR2 MP, otherwise very close performance at a slightly cheaper price.

I plan to have 2x 420 rads and 1x 280. Overkill ? Yes, but I want to make sure the PC is silent in both 1 and 2 GPU configurations with good overclocks. Hell I can even turn all the fans off when browsing the internet at night and the big rads will act as passive coolers smile.gif

Yeah I am definitely going with the noiseblocker black silent pros, but will opt for the PWM version if possible so I can adjust it through the motherboard. Alternatively a fan controller is also on the cards.

Nice radiator man, is it a 840mm unit or you have separate rads to match that ? If so is that external?

Hello,

With unforgiving i meant the risk of leaks which people had with hard tubing IF one messes up if one takes proper action to make hard tubing work then its awesome but you have to take into account dissembling that takes more time and as you noted is expensive in comparison with soft tubing changing tubing as you said is not the same as working with hard tubing:D I have no window so my priority lies in performance and clean system ie will use EK-ZMT rubber tubing no plasticizer issues and the AMS rads which has no solder flux that can block water blocks, atleast thats what the reviews are saying and user feedback from german wc forums where there are more people using these type of rads and many are satisfied. I checked temps from people there with the AMS 840 and it cools very well with an overclocked cpu and high end gpu and headroom for even another gpu with ease. This is the rad i already ordered very heavy weighs a metric ton but build quality is flawless:

CREATOR: gd-jpeg v1.0 (using IJG JPEG v80), quality = 95

Il place it rear of my pc case (fresh air) ive tested it with a strong radbox that i will reinforce to cope with the weight (and it holds very well with testing) and if not then its going to be external.

Note here that there are mixed reviews on this rad some say its a decent rad while others tell us excellent rad mainly on european review sites. And user reviews are very pleased plus with this type of overkill rad i should have no problems cooling my cpu 6800k and a gtx 1070/1080 single or sli.

"I plan to have 2x 420 rads and 1x 280. Overkill ?"

Well maybe but i heard there are diminishing returns with that setup 2 x 420 plus a 280 for one cpu and gpu unless u want to use very low rpm fans for silence. Hopefully some one will chime in to give you feedback on your rad and cooling and what specific route one has to take personally if i went with HWL rad i would get The Black Ice SR2 420 and maybe a 360 as second rad ( i think most would recommend that but 2 x 420 and 280...?) this should cool plenty for your cpu and gpu's + silence + overclock . Its always nice to have multi options for routing your hard/soft tubing plus easy to drain the system/rad with those multi options. Sometimes following feedback can be very very helpful and some times it doesnt in a one case i had. I did that back then with my monsta 360 and told me its "fine" with your setup which it wasnt thicker is not always better but longer is better and got "ok" temps touching the rad while heavy gaming results in a above warm feeling the tubing where also warm to the touch. A problem i didnt had with using my XSPC RX480 even with heavy gaming it was cool to the touch cooling a i7 920 and gtx 570 back then.

Just wait for more people to chime in to give their advise on your setup so you can make a good choice more feedback is always good.thumb.gif
Edited by Cobra26 - 7/2/16 at 4:50pm
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