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Wait, what? He has Win 10 on two laptops and is still wondering whether he should try it on his desktop? It's akin to hating broccoli and still wondering whether you should eat it (I love broccoli).

 

I hate Win 10 so I am not even entertaining the idea of installing it on any of my systems.

 

As he said in his original post, this system will be strictly for gaming. He also made it clear that the only time he will ever have to deal with Windows 10 is when he's starting the computer up, launching a game, exiting a game and then turning the computer off (not to mention installing and setting up Windows 10 and installing his games). He won't be doing anything else with this computer; it's practically just a glorified gaming console.

 

Since he already knows he hates Windows 10, he wanted to know if there's anything about it he didn't know yet as it pertains to gaming compared to Windows 7. Like, you know, reasons why it would be worth dealing with Windows 10 for those brief little moments. If Windows 10 weren't providing worthwhile gaming benefits over Windows 7, then the choice would've been obvious: install Windows 7. However, we pointed out DirectX12 and other under-the-hood improvements that improve gaming performance across the board. So, the choice was obvious that it's worth dealing with Windows 10 so that his gaming rig's performance is as good as it can be, even though he'll have to see Windows 10 for a few seconds every time he wants to use this gaming rig.

 

So no, he's not stupid.

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I never said he's stupid, I said the question is illogical. While he might only use it for gaming it doesn't mean he can't use 7 or 8.1. Right now there are no native DX12 games, the ones that are touted as DX12 have certain features but are still mostly DX11.x.

 

10 To me, even for gaming, isn't an upgrade, it's a downgrade and I hope that we can finally break DX' monopoly on gaming as Vulkan is available for 7 and 8.

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I never said he's stupid, I said the question is illogical. While he might only use it for gaming it doesn't mean he can't use 7 or 8.1. Right now there are no native DX12 games, the ones that are touted as DX12 have certain features but are still mostly DX11.x.

 

10 To me, even for gaming, isn't an upgrade, it's a downgrade and I hope that we can finally break DX' monopoly on gaming as Vulkan is available for 7 and 8.

 

No, your post makes it look like you think he's stupid. Therefore, you're saying he's stupid and I don't like it one bit.

 

You think it's illogical because you don't understand why he's asking. It's perfectly logical and I stand behind him 100% because I fully understand why he's asking, and it makes perfect sense.

 

No one ever said that he CAN'T use Windows 7 or 8.1! All he's asking is if Windows 10 would provide enough of a benefit for gaming to make it worth dealing with for those short times that I described. The simple answer is Yes it would. Why? Because not only does it provide a performance improvement RIGHT NOW - even without DirectX12, it provides that full support for DirectX12 that he will inevitably need (or want) while Windows 7 or 8.1 doesn't. Yes there's Vulkan, but I sincerely doubt that it's going to be the ONLY API in use! DirectX12 will still be used, and he obviously wants to make sure he's ready for that.

 

I don't even know why you're posting though because he has clearly already made up his mind. He can do whatever he so chooses. All we did was we enabled him to make that choice. He made it and as he said, it's final. It's done. He has moved on. He's going to have Windows 10 on this gaming rig and it doesn't matter what anyone thinks. It's his gaming machine, so he can do whatever he wants with it.

 

It's not worth continuing this discussion/argument because you clearly just want him to do what YOU would do, and that's not helpful because he's not you. In case you missed it, I never wanted to recommend that he put Windows 10 on this gaming machine because I most certainly wouldn't! That doesn't mean that he can't or shouldn't! He needs to what will work best for HIM. It doesn't matter what would work best for me or for you or for anyone else. Ok?


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Originally Posted by Liranan View Post

Wait, what? He has Win 10 on two laptops and is still wondering whether he should try it on his desktop? It's akin to hating broccoli and still wondering whether you should eat it (I love broccoli).

I hate Win 10 so I am not even entertaining the idea of installing it on any of my systems.
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Originally Posted by Liranan View Post

I never said he's stupid, I said the question is illogical. While he might only use it for gaming it doesn't mean he can't use 7 or 8.1. Right now there are no native DX12 games, the ones that are touted as DX12 have certain features but are still mostly DX11.x.

10 To me, even for gaming, isn't an upgrade, it's a downgrade and I hope that we can finally break DX' monopoly on gaming as Vulkan is available for 7 and 8.

Appreciate your advice, but obviously I was entertaining running W10 on my desk top, that is why I posted the ?
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Just an update .. I finished the build and installed W10. Its working out OK as I disabled all the functions I could and only have to use it to launch the games I run. Do I like it not really but it is what it is! I think it was written for someone with no knowledge of how an operating system is supposed to interface with a person and a computer biggrin.gif

I do love this new build it is silent thumb.gif

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