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post #1 of 16
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Hello everyone,

I just built my first true gaming rig a few days ago. Everything is going well except I am worried I might have been shipped a bad 4790k.

The problem is temps... on stock cooling

I am using the stock cooler which I will be switching out soon. I have been monitoring my temps as I play a few games. Here's what I found;

Turbo Boost ON: 28-30C idle, 75-90C While playing titles such as CS:GO
Turbo Boost OFF: 30-32C idle, 60-70C While playing titles such as CS:GO

Should Turbo Boost really be affecting me that much? I really got unsettled when it jumped into the 90's.

Another issue I had was the stock cooling solutions fan will only go up to 2090RPM. I've tried everything to get it to go up, and even plugged in a different CPU cooler to CPU fan 2 and held it next to the mobo while I messed with speeds for it. Got it up to 5200RPM. So it's not the mobo, maybe I was given a faulty fan, or maybe the max RPM for the stock coolers coming out for the 4790k are just that bad.

My question is, should I be worrying or are these normal temps for a stock cooler? I don't want to buy a cooler just to find out that my chip runs really hot anyway.

I hope that all made sense, it's six in the morning here and I have been fixated on this problem all night.

Cheers.
post #2 of 16
How is your case airflow? I have my 4790k at 4.4ghz by default and have never seen my chip run past 75c while gaming with the stock cooler.
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post #3 of 16
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Originally Posted by aDyerSituation View Post

How is your case airflow? I have my 4790k at 4.4ghz by default and have never seen my chip run past 75c while gaming with the stock cooler.

I use a stock Fractal Design Define S, not great. One intake 140mm and one exhaust 140mm. I thought these temps were unusual.

EDIT: What's your max fan speed RPM? I can't get mine over 2080RPM.
post #4 of 16
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Originally Posted by StickyKeys View Post

I use a stock Fractal Design Define S, not great. One intake 140mm and one exhaust 140mm. I thought these temps were unusual.

EDIT: What's your max fan speed RPM? I can't get mine over 2080RPM.

Never checked. All I know is that I don't hear it over my gpu, if that helps. I'm at work so I can't check.

I'd advise having more intake fans. I have 3 intake fans and 1 exhaust fan. Less than I usually run but I don't seem to have any cooling issues with this setup. I'd also try reapplying different thermal paste.

It would also help to know what your CPU voltage is.
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post #5 of 16
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Thanks for your help.

My plan is to ditch this cooler as soon as I can, I was thinking the Kraken x61 for now until I decide to venture into custom loops, but I want a more suitable future-proof GPU to loop so I wont have to rebuild it soon for an upgrade. I digress...

Is this unusual? How worried should I be about needing to replace the chip?
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by StickyKeys View Post

Thanks for your help.

My plan is to ditch this cooler as soon as I can, I was thinking the Kraken x61 for now until I decide to venture into custom loops, but I want a more suitable future-proof GPU to loop so I wont have to rebuild it soon for an upgrade. I digress...

Is this unusual? How worried should I be about needing to replace the chip?

I doubt it's the chip, unless voltages are irregular. You may have just got a chip that runs a little hotter than mine.

90c is a little worrisome I'm sure but it isn't going to kill your chip

What's your motherboard?
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post #7 of 16
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Build List

God I hope it is user error I was hoping to push at least 4.7ghz out of it reasonably.

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 950 2GB Dual WindForce Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit
post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by StickyKeys View Post

Build List

God I hope it is user error I was hoping to push at least 4.7ghz out of it reasonably.

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2400 Memory
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 950 2GB Dual WindForce Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Define S w/Window ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit

Try re seating the cooler as well. Sometimes those 4 pins don't get pushed in all the way
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post #9 of 16
Try reducing the voltage, some boards will give too much on auto settings.
post #10 of 16
Yeah, there are a lot of things you can try lol

My best advice would be to get some sleep and come back to it at a later time
You'd be surprised what you miss when you aren't fully awake thumb.gif
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