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Hi there

So my husband kept getting his machine switching off with the skype screeching in the process. All lights even keyboard went off. Assumed PSU wasn't adequate so replaced it and it then still suffered the problem but rebooted sometimes instead. Gradually got worse till PC died all together. This thing is in constant use as he is my carer and cannot really leave the house so it is used to keep him sane lol.
Next we took it to a computer shop to diagnose the problem.
A friend suspected Mobo.

The shop did say it was Mobo so we have ordered one but in the meantime borrowed my son's board to test and found it did the same thing, after a few seconds. So we borrowed his RAM and thought we had cracked it, didn't switch off, great, ordered some, that minute it crashed again aghhhhhhh!!! At the end of our money.

Hoping we are not damaging son's Mobo and RAM as we put my graphics card in to see if that has any effect. They are all compatible with each other luckily. My graphics card is my husbands old one.

Could anyone say what they think we could test next or from that does it sound like the CPU? Shudder.

Did a Chkdisk and showed no bad sectors.

Any help much appreciated.

Take care
post #2 of 25

Before we do any troubleshooting, we need to know what you know about the computer. So, please list all the components that make up his entire system. When you list the PSU, list the brand and the exact model - and please do the same with the old one.

 

We also need to know how long he has had all these components for this computer.

 

Please also list any overclocks, if any.

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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

Before we do any troubleshooting, we need to know what you know about the computer. So, please list all the components that make up his entire system. When you list the PSU, list the brand and the exact model - and please do the same with the old one.

We also need to know how long he has had all these components for this computer.

Please also list any overclocks, if any.

I'll add that since I noted the machine is in constant use, exactly HOW OLD is the machine?
Any and all info you can give would be useful because with computers it's always that little bit of missing info that can throw you off if it's not there.
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Originally Posted by Kryton View Post


I'll add that since I noted the machine is in constant use, exactly HOW OLD is the machine?
Any and all info you can give would be useful because with computers it's always that little bit of missing info that can throw you off if it's not there.

 

I asked how old it is, but in a way that will be more accurate in terms of how long he's been using the components. I asked, "We also need to know how long he has had all these components for this computer." So, I don't want to know when the parts for his computer were made, but I want to know how long he's had them.


Edited by TwoCables - 7/4/16 at 12:12am
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post #5 of 25
Gotcha - Missed that somehow and you are correct but..... Physical age in a way matters too but in terms of wear and tear that's the big thing as you've pointed out.
Physical age could matter in terms of finding parts or at least the right one(s) but again even if it's an older one those shouldn't be hard to come by and would probrably be cheaper too. rolleyes.gif
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryton View Post

Gotcha - Missed that somehow and you are correct but..... Physical age in a way matters too but in terms of wear and tear that's the big thing as you've pointed out.
Physical age could matter in terms of finding parts or at least the right one(s) but again even if it's an older one those shouldn't be hard to come by and would probrably be cheaper too. rolleyes.gif

 

Oh damn, I didn't think about that. Thank you!

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post #7 of 25
They tested the son's motherboard and that means it's not the motherboard or the PSU (since they've since replaced the PSU) I highly suspect this could be a bad ground or a bad outlet. The power isn't clean.



Have you guys tried plugging it in in another room? One that is on a different power grid in the house? If two motherboards are doing the same thing from the same outlet I am wondering if that outlet is bad.
 
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post #8 of 25
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Wow there are a couple of very relevant points raised here.
I haven't yet delved to see what all the components are as I just woke up, however, the flat is a damp place and we do have a lot of power trips and stuff, I have had him plug it back into the surge protector as the flat is so small there is physically not room anywhere else to plug it in. With the wear and tear issue, I think that also has to be very valid for his computer. When he goes to bed our teenage son (son no.2) goes and uses it so it is really never off and was last upgraded in a cheap bundle 3 years ago during which time it has worked perfectly. So it is old. Except of course for the new PSU
Last night it was up working for about 4 hours no crashes borrowing my graphics card on top of son's mobo and RAM.

I will try to get a list of components At the moment I just hope my hubby doesn't have a breakdown as his second brain (the computer) is suffering lol.

Is there an easy way to get a list without him laying it all out on his desk to name the pieces?

Thanks so much for your helpful answers so far.

kindest regards x
post #9 of 25
You can use a program we use ourselves to show the basics, CPU-Z is what will tell you the CPU and socket, motherboard and it can tell what graphics card is in too but GPU-Z will do the trick for the graphics card.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

Other programs such as Everest can reveal even more info but you can start with CPU-Z, just download the portable version and you can get this info within a screenshot. You can open multiple instances of it to get all this info within a single screenshot by opening the various tabs at the top once you get it opened, that does help.
Be sure to open it as many times as you need to get all this info.

You can find it here: http://www.cpuid.com/ and be sure to get the portable version as said - I'd also get both 32 and 64 bit versions to be sure you have what you need.
Edited by Kryton - 7/4/16 at 1:47am
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post #10 of 25
This website actually has a tool that can analyse your computer and tell you what you have. Just go to the rig builder and download system interrogator.
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