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Can be useful for people who aren't really "hardcore" and would like some help with optimal settings for their PC in any given game. It has it's uses, but should not require a log in outside of specific features(Upload to Youtube add credentials to settings page etc).

Those people buy consoles.
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GFE is useless since it introduces microstutter and forces you to encode on-the-fly, but they couldn't brand it as being super fast if you were trying to store raw video on a mechanical drive since that would slow down quite a bit. I think the best mechanical drive you can buy without going crazy are the mechanical drives I use which can handle 1080p @ 60fps due to being capable of 130MB/s sequential read and write speed, but that only just barely handles 1080p @ 60fps which assumes nothing else is accessing that drive.

Kepler is still limited to 30fps @ 1440p too, but I assume that's not the case with Maxwell or Pascal.
Edited by Ascii Aficionado - 7/4/16 at 11:10am
 
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post #33 of 114
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GFE is useless since it introduces microstutter and forces you to encode on-the-fly, but they couldn't brand it as being super fast if you were trying to store raw video on a mechanical drive since that would slow down quite a bit. I think the best mechanical drive you can buy without going crazy are the mechanical drives I use which can handle 1080p @ 60fps due to being capable of 130MB/s sequential read and write speed, but that only just barely handles 1080p @ 60fps which assumes nothing else is accessing that drive.

Kepler is still limited to 30fps @ 1440p too, but I assume that's not the case with Maxwell or Pascal.

I don't know... I had my GTX 1070 recording 1440P+ @ 60FPS the other night, and it did just fine. The video turned out flawlessly, even when transcoding to a 6+ year old 500GB Western Digital drive.

Pascal is capable of 4K @ 60 fps recording with ShadowPlay.
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I don't know... I had my GTX 1070 recording 1440P+ @ 60FPS the other night, and it did just fine. The video turned out flawlessly, even when transcoding to a 6+ year old 500GB Western Digital drive.

Pascal is capable of 4K @ 60 fps recording with ShadowPlay.

Wasn't talking about quality, which is alright.

One of the issues with encoding-on-the-fly with GFE is this.

GFE

You choose your settings, you don't control much of anything else, but the main issue is you can't edit the video unless you open it in something else which then requires you to transcode it again, then it will happen yet again after you upload it to a site.

Fraps

Stores in raw format, you need xxx amount of sequential read and write speed on the target drive to prevent slowdowns (as well as taking resources away from the game). You then open up some Adobe program or VirtualDub with a hacked VD x264 codec installed, then you can do as much editing as you want before encoding as well as controlling every aspect of the encode. You'd also need the target drive to basically be left alone by the PC in every aspect as that would destroy the bandwidth (automatically assuming the OS isn't on the same drive). Fraps isn't practical for most people.

My main encoding issue with GFE is being unable to edit unless you transcode a second time, which will then happen a 3rd time when you upload it. But then there's the awful microstutter., though that could be due to an older version of GFE and/or my hardware.

Glad to hear Pascal can do 4k @ 60 (not sarcasm)

Edit - Edited this like 9 times due to typos since I'm wolfing down a salad.
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Will nVidia start DCMA'ing people for republishing Geforce Experience game settings? rolleyes.gif

The only reason why they are requiring you to use a login is to sell your data or be apart of their testing program... without even paying you.

There is no technical reason for a login... except for some sort of "someone else's server" sync function.

Why are ShadowPlay, LED control, and GameReady drivers under a data-mining wall now?

Just wait until nVidia has been served with a NSL... the FBI, NSA, etc. will just turn on shadow play by themselves and stream your frame buffer.
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I didn't know that most even installed GE. Lol, I don't even install mobo software....

If you want to use Shadowplay then you have to use it. Also useful for relaying what settings you're using for a game.

Such as,
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Beats having to type all that crap out.


The optimal settings can be a good way to get a Q&D setup in a game. Though, the results depends. When I was on 1440p with my 980 ti I found the settings usually worked out well. Now that I'm at 3440x1440 they're usually all wonky and I don't use them. Yea, some other dude may run this game at 1440p on his 21:9 monitor, but, I've got Gsync on mine and can get away with much higher settings. Also didn't like my 950/6300 and would often tell me I was under min specs even though I could pretty much max a game out on the system.

Though, I did not use GFE until they were talking crap about forcing us to use it for driver updates. They didn't seem to enforce that but I've since grown fond of the program for some things and have kept it around.
     
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Well, the good thing is Nvidia stops optimizing their drivers for their cards after the initial few months, I don't think I'll ever need to update my drivers to the versions that requires login.
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Will nVidia start DCMA'ing people for republishing Geforce Experience game settings? rolleyes.gif

The only reason why they are requiring you to use a login is to sell your data or be apart of their testing program... without even paying you.

There is no technical reason for a login... except for some sort of "someone else's server" sync function.

Why are ShadowPlay, LED control, and GameReady drivers under a data-mining wall now?

Just wait until nVidia has been served with a NSL... the FBI, NSA, etc. will just turn on shadow play by themselves and stream your frame buffer.

There are several reasons for a login.
If you connect to twitch, or want to stream to youtube through GFE, you need to login and connect accounts with youtube.
If you want to save settings in cloud case you reinstall stuff (razer are also doing the same, if you completely reinstall all your macros are still there).
In case you want to run shadowplay co-op with someone else, you can. But both need to be identified and connected together, which a login helps.

Some features just requires any sort of identification and a login in order to allow online connectivity with other sources, so claiming "no technical reason" is not understanding how the internet works.
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post #39 of 114
And I just bought a GTX 1070 G1 :,(

Now I remember why I often prefer AMD, sad that AMD don't have anything that caters to my needs right now until VEGA.
post #40 of 114
OH NO.
Imagine having to log in for the first time. Its not like people log in to different services every single day.
Oh wait, they are...

And just imagine the pure horror of a better visual UI. That stuff is from nightmares.

No, AMD here I come.


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