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post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Hi, this is my first build for freelance graphic designer. Will be used about 16h/day, have to run newest Illustrator, InDesign, Photoshop.
Budget: up to 620$. I tried to find the quietest parts available within this budget. (hope I did the job...)

Please check for serious issues. Is there something you would change?

CPU - Intel Core i5-4570,3,2 GHz
Motherboard - Asus Q87M-E/CSM, microATX
GPU - GeForce GT 730 N730K-1GD5LP/OC,
RAM - Mushkin DDR3 997002 4x 4GB
PSU- Corsair RM550x
Case - Cooler Master Elite 343

These excluded from price, just to show the full combination:
Disk: an older one temporarily, in future an SSD will be purchased.
Monitors: EIZO 240 (1920x1200,60Hz) + some cheap small monitor as an "storage space" - already in place
OS: Win 7 x64 - already has licence

I will be grateful for any answers and tips! smile.gif
post #2 of 14
Are you going to use the stock Intel cooler or do you have a CPU cooler already?
Or do you need a CPU cooler for that system?
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post #3 of 14
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Based on some googling about stock Intel coolers, I told myself I'm going to use this one firstly and to monitor the temperatures for few weeks and then I will see (I'm from Central Europe and temp in the house isn't that high during summer, so I think it won't be necessary to buy some extra fan...).
post #4 of 14
A cooler is not the same thing as a fan and the stock Intel cooler is really not very good in fact i would go as far as calling it horrible and its not quiet either
Looking on amazon.de i see decent coolers for around 30-40 euros.

Such as this one
https://www.amazon.de/Thermalright-True-Spirit-Power-Cooler/dp/B00GIO7BSG/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1467633611&sr=8-14&keywords=Thermalright

Or this
https://www.amazon.de/Thermalright-Macho-120-Rev-Cooler/dp/B00GIO7D5C/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1467633650&sr=8-7&keywords=Thermalright
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post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 
OK, thanks for tips, I will rethink it again. Yes, I meant cooler including fan and heatspreader, not just fan...just used inappropriate word.
However, don't you see any other issues? What about SPU, do you think it will be sufficient? And would it be still truth if it was upgraded to 32 GB of RAM + i7 + some better GPU in future?
post #6 of 14
SPU? you mean PSU?
If thats what you mean its way overkill as that system wont draw much more then 250 watts.
Edited by shilka - 7/4/16 at 6:16am
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post #7 of 14
Let me see what can be built for $620, pcpartpicker build coming soon.

I can fit RX 480 in there but I would have to truly choose the cheapest RAM, PSU, Case.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6400 2.7GHz Quad-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($167.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper T4 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H170-GAMING 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws 4 Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 500R Black ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($70.98 @ Newegg)
Other: RX 470 ($150.00)
Total: $615.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-04 10:14 EDT-0400

I don't know why you would build a Haswell system, like WTH really. You really don't want less than 16GB for Photoshop, trust me, you make a few layers have a web browser open at the same time and you're bound to see 10-12GB RAM usage.

GPU wise I don't think you even need a dedicated one, but the moment you start using video editors they do help with acceleration a lot or so they say. I'm on HD4600 now and I don't notice any change in Photostop speed with iGPU only.

You could get i5-6500 the price jump isn't that big and you could save elsewhere. I don't know why they even bother making DDR4 2400MHz, I guess it's the standard Intel stock slow speed but considering 2400/CL11 was standard for DDR3 years ago it makes no sense to buy worse RAM when buying DDR4.

Of course the deals available change daily of not hourly, the case seems darn cheap and it comes with tons of fans preinstalled like 4 or something.

GPU you have to wait until new GPUs are released, if you don't want to wait for new 14nm GPUs then buy a 2nd hand 28nm previous generation but I think the prices are still not dropping much because the supply and releases of new GPUs are going slow.

Or if you want to cheap out but get that i7:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($297.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper T4 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock H110M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($52.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case ($22.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($23.98 @ Newegg)
Other: RX 470 ($150.00)
Total: $617.93
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-07-04 10:39 EDT-0400
Edited by JackCY - 7/4/16 at 7:39am
post #8 of 14
Thread Starter 
shilka, yes, I meant PSU biggrin.gif, I don't have these abrevs. in hand yet...
Well, on http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator I got recommended 377 W and I included there 2 extra SATA 10K RPM disks (one will be added in future for sure for backup, another one just for possibility...) and DVD drive (I didn't mention here, sorry for that). And I wasn't sure this recommended value is already with extra 100 reserve, so I added 100 and rounded up so I got 500. Not sure how exactly I finally got to 550, but this is somehow how I thought. biggrin.gif

So would you recommend this one ? Or should I go even lower to 350, or 300. I'm a bit afraid of what happens if I upgrade a little bit in future (CPU, GPU, RAM)...
post #9 of 14
Forget what those so called calculators tell you its wrong
And yes that Be Quiet Straight Power 10 is more then enough for the system you have in the OP.
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LG CH12NS30 x5 Noctua NF-A14 FLX Noctua NH-D15S Windows 7 64 Bit 
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Asus PG279Q LG 49UH750V 4K LED TV Corsair Gaming Strafe RGB EVGA SuperNova G2 750 watt 
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post #10 of 14
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JackCY, thanks a lot for suggestions! I didn't even asked for complete build, but thanks.
You brought me to thinking again about memory. It will be definitely worth purchasing one with up to 64 GB compatibility instead of 32 only, but I want to go for either Asus or GIGABYTE. The first one you mentioned - they write: HDMI port, supporting a maximum resolution of 4096x2160@24 Hz - does it mean that it will support 1920x19200@60 Hz too?
Another question: does it pay off really so much, DDR4 instead of DDR3. According to some videos and benchmarks, it's not that different, so I'm confused...



My suggested case has only one fan preinstalled, it's quite cheap but reviews are very good + some certification of good airflow system.

So when we're talking about my first suggested build, therefore you guys think it's much waste of money to use the Haswell system for graphic design (Photoshop, etc.)?


shilka, ok, I just don't understand why there are those sites then, but whatever...
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