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You conveniently left out how the GTX 280 costs $650 @ launch. This is nothing new. Prices have fluctuated based on demand/performance for a while now. The problem is that you cannot calculate for R&D costs, what the foundry charges per wafer, and other variables.

People just don't seem to understand that as technology progresses, it gets more and more complex. It may seem expensive compared to what it used to be, but that's the price of progress.

By that logic, the Pascal Titan/X/whatever should cost $650-800, which is exactly what I'm alluding to. Not sure why you aren't getting my point. Instead we're getting the small die for exorbitant prices.
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AMD have been working really hard on optimizing the performance of the GCN cards, all of the performance optimizations they do affects all of the GCN cards.

The AMD cards just got faster, the NVIDIA cards didn't get slower.

However, the performance optimizations for the Kepler-based GPUs in newer games seems to have fallen off a bit.

Not to sound like a conspiracy theorist but what if that happens with Maxwell? I'll give Nvidia the benefit of the doubt since it was only a single generation (as far as I know) but it could very well happen again. Unless Kepler was inherently hard to code/optimize drivers for due to it's architecture.
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DVI Connector? lol. its 2016.
My monitor is DVI only. 2560x1440 27" 120Hz.
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By that logic, the Pascal Titan/X/whatever should cost $650-800, which is exactly what I'm alluding to. Not sure why you aren't getting my point. Instead we're getting the small die for exorbitant prices.

I get your point. Now you need to get mine.

Die size does not dictate price, and it never has. The overall performance and competition in the market will dictate price, as it always has. That's why you have generations of GPUs that never peaked $500, and now we have $1000 halo cards; the market has allowed it to happen. Vote with your wallet if you aren't happy with it, but unless others band together and refuse to buy the $1000 Titan cards, it's not going to change.

Stop looking at die size as a metric for performance. Those days are done. The market now dictates price based on performance alone.
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I get your point. Now you need to get mine.

Die size does not dictate price, and it never has. The overall performance and competition in the market will dictate price, as it always has. That's why you have generations of GPUs that never peaked $500, and now we have $1000 halo cards; the market has allowed it to happen. Vote with your wallet if you aren't happy with it, but unless others band together and refuse to buy the $1000 Titan cards, it's not going to change.

Stop looking at die size as a metric for performance. Those days are done. The market now dictates price based on performance alone.

What generation never peaked $500? You mean only Fermi generation? You know the reason was only because 480 was 5 months late as slightly faster then $400 AMD GPU and 580 was only a improved 480. Everything after and before Nvidia tried to target ~ $600-700 for their high end card.
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You conveniently left out how the GTX 280 costs $650 @ launch.

You conveniently left out the part about how Nvidia and AMD were in court due to price fixing allegations during this time period rolleyes.gif

Then again, a $1.7 million settlement isn't even a slap on the hands. Anti-trust regulation is a joke biggrin.gif
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competition in the market will dictate price, as it always has.

This is it. Has nothing to do with performance or die size. It boils down to competition. Or in this case, the lack of competition. This duopoly hasn't had any competition in over a decade...
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I get your point. Now you need to get mine.

Die size does not dictate price, and it never has. The overall performance and competition in the market will dictate price, as it always has. That's why you have generations of GPUs that never peaked $500, and now we have $1000 halo cards; the market has allowed it to happen. Vote with your wallet if you aren't happy with it, but unless others band together and refuse to buy the $1000 Titan cards, it's not going to change.

Stop looking at die size as a metric for performance. Those days are done. The market now dictates price based on performance alone.

Now, if you had made this argument in the first place, I would have just agreed with you.

Nvidia has moved all of their cards up a price segment, and created two "new" tiers: TI and Titan (reason I say new, is the TI branding obviously isn't new). And all these.... what's a soft way to put this... sheep have lapped it up like milk.



"Oh please Jen Hsun, please release the GTX 1060 as the 1080 and ask me to pay $700 for it, PLEASE! I need to buy you a new jacket!"

With all that said, until the market changes, my used 780TI's will be the last Nvidia product I buy. You guys can continue gouging yourselves.
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By that logic, the Pascal Titan/X/whatever should cost $650-800, which is exactly what I'm alluding to. Not sure why you aren't getting my point. Instead we're getting the small die for exorbitant prices.
$500 5-10yrs ago isnt equal $500 now.

inflation exist in this world.
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Didn't change until the 7xx series. Nice try though.

You conveniently left out how the GTX 280 costs $650 @ launch. This is nothing new. Prices have fluctuated based on demand/performance for a while now. The problem is that you cannot calculate for R&D costs, what the foundry charges per wafer, and other variables.

People just don't seem to understand that as technology progresses, it gets more and more complex. It may seem expensive compared to what it used to be, but that's the price of progress.


To tell the whole story, Nvidia was forced to lower the price of both the GTX 280 and 260 quite substantially... less than a month after having released the cards (and also the 9800 GTX, and they also released a 9800 GTX+ to better compete). It was probably the most embarrassing moment in their history because they were literally caught jacking up prices because they mistakenly thought that they could.

GeForce GTX 280 launch: June 17, 2008; Price: $650

Radeon HD 4870 launch: June 25, 2008; Price $299


Nvidia price drops on the GTX 280 and 260: Second week of July (before the 15th) 2008

New GTX 280 price: $499.

New GTX 260 price: $299 (previously $399)

I can imagine the fans' outrage having overpaid $150 less than a month before.


http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2325648,00.asp
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More than a week ago, Nvidia shares fell sharply as the company adjusted its financial guidance downward, stating that it was due to "price adjustments of our GPU products to respond to competitive products." Sure enough, the $300 GeForce 9800 GTX dropped down to $200 to compete with ATI's new Radeon HD 4850.

That sort of left a hole at $300, where the Radeon HD 4870 is priced. This was still not a great competitive situation for Nvidia, as this higher-end Radeon card competes very well with the $400 GeForce GTX 260, and makes the $650 GeForce GTX 280 look like it's just not worth the exorbitant price.

In the last few days, Nvidia dropped the other shoe in the competitive price-drop battle. The GeForce GTX 260 now sells for $299, making it a good match for the Radeon HD 4870. If you're wondering which one is better: It's a toss-up. The GeForce card is faster in some situations, the Radeon card in others. It all depends on the game you're testing, the resolution, and how much anti-aliasing you apply.

The flagship GeForce GTX 280 card has dropped by $150 to $499.



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This is it. Has nothing to do with performance or die size. It boils down to competition. Or in this case, the lack of competition. This duopoly hasn't had any competition in over a decade...

And even though AMD is in a tight spot, they either can't or really don't want to compete seriously anymore like in the old days. If they did, the RX 480 would be consistently beating the GTX 980 and not trading blows with the GTX 970. They should have just gone all out with a decent heatsink on the reference cooler and put an 8-pin / 2x 6-pin connectors and clocked it higher, power usage be damned. If it was a 180w card beating the 980 it would have made a different impact. Maybe the AIB cards will do it, but they missed the chance to cause a first good impression. Just like they did with the crappy R9 290X and 290 coolers. Two otherwise excellent cards, probably their most balanced design to date, were met with numerous articles about noise and why the cards couldn't sustain the top clocks.
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Power connector integrated into the blower? Ugh.... Here's hoping the third party companies are a lot wiser.

Still kind of a pity regarding the power connector too, I was hoping for something like the 750 Ti where it wouldn't necessarily require a power connector, but if it's a nice and efficient power house card for BOINC and/or Folding@Home I'll live with the power connector ^_^
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