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Will the CLC fit in the rear to exhaust out?

With a single fan, yup.

But, then the CPU fan is blowing hot air right into the GPU radiator...that doesn't sound healthy?

EDIT: Or maybe it's OK? I was under the impression that all hot air shouldn't be recirculated around the case and not into other parts' fins/heatsinks. Maybe I'm wrong here, as ehume suggested a similar idea.

Well that's the delimma with liquid cooling only one component, you have to sacrifice something. It's best to liquid cool both or keep both on air. No matter where you mount that CLC your going to have to sacrifice air cooling somewhere. Best bet is too just try it in different spots and configurations until you get the best overall temps.

And imo don't cut up your case. These aren't 1990s cases that didnt care about airflow. The 540 was specifically designed for good and proper airflow. You need to build your cooling solutions around what the case was designed for not try to force it down the throat of the case.
 
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Well that's the delimma with liquid cooling only one component, you have to sacrifice something. It's best to liquid cool both or keep both on air. No matter where you mount that CLC your going to have to sacrifice air cooling somewhere. Best bet is too just try it in different spots and configurations until you get the best overall temps.

And imo don't cut up your case. These aren't 1990s cases that didnt care about airflow. The 540 was specifically designed for good and proper airflow. You need to build your cooling solutions around what the case was designed for not try to force it down the throat of the case.

Yeah, exactly: it would've been better to do both, but I'm not that interested in CPU overclocking as much these days.

So, then, maybe my initial guess is looking like the best one? Exhaust the GPU AIO in the top-right. That way, nothing needs to "eat" hot air from something else directly....just passively absorbing the lukewarm air, redface.gif

Yeah--if I start getting rough temps, I'll just move stuff around or put in some ducts.

Err, haha, right, right, no. I think no cutting is needed: the rear exhaust fan grill is the screw-on type, so removing it is no issue. The top grill: it's also on screws, but it's not just the grill, but the whole top of the case. Hmm...I'll debate aesthetics when everything gets installed.
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So much for cross-posting. Yes. With the AIO handling the GPU, upgoing fans are best.

OK, right. When I built this rig, I never thought about water-cooling, so I'm in some awkward situations, haha.
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I'm back.

If you have in-case GPU exhaust, then no partition, just intake air from the front, and either an exhaust window or fan to pull air out of the case.

That rear grill tends to reflect exhaust. Once to take the fan away you can feel you heatsink fan not blowing air past it. When you cut the grill, you can cover the edges with report over spines so you don't cut yourself.

As for 120mm fans, I know a lot more about 140mm fans. I'd say use the ones that come with your AIO. The next best are Gentle Typhoons and Noctua NF-F12's. But there are a number of fans I know nothing about.

Hey.

Thanks again for the help.

Oh, so mount the radiator in the front (though manage dust or deal with the lower pressure with the filter), use a partition to reroute the hot air around the VRM/VRAM, and maybe use a rear fan "against" the PCIe slot covers (like the top exhaust fan, just lower). OK, yeah: that would keep the directionality of "front to back".

Right? After I saw your thread, it makes a ton of sense. Luckily, this grill is the screw-on kind so easy to remove. I'm not sure why I had it in the first place.

Sure, sure. Well, haha, I'm down for 140s, too. I like quiet: very quiet. The AF140s run at 600RPM idle and 800RPM under load. So, I'd been looking at the Noctua P14S 900RPM one and maybe tune it down with PWM.


You can try mounting the rad in front, but in that case you'll want a mid-case top intake to feed cool air to your Noctua heatsink. Remember, the AIO rad component is blowing warm to hot air into the case. leave the slot covers off of your PCIE slots to facilitate exhaust from the case.

 

Normally I advocate using a pull fan on your heatsink, removing your rear grill, and letting the pull fan exhaust your case. You can see an example of this in item 2 of my sig.

 

In your case, I think that it's a coin flip between a front mount or a top mount for your AIO rad. Front mount: intake. Top mount: exhaust. Interesting. I think I would run Linpack using LinX as a front end and test the rig in both configurations.

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You can try mounting the rad in front, but in that case you'll want a mid-case top intake to feed cool air to your Noctua heatsink. Remember, the AIO rad component is blowing warm to hot air into the case. leave the slot covers off of your PCIE slots to facilitate exhaust from the case.

Normally I advocate using a pull fan on your heatsink, removing your rear grill, and letting the pull fan exhaust your case. You can see an example of this in item 2 of my sig.

In your case, I think that it's a coin flip between a front mount or a top mount for your AIO rad. Front mount: intake. Top mount: exhaust. Interesting. I think I would run Linpack using LinX as a front end and test the rig in both configurations.

Oh, the PCIe slot covers, too. Hmmm! I was always worried about dust (even with positive pressure) but after seeing your thread, maybe they can all go out, haha.

Yeah, I think I'm going pull + no fan + no grill. I get fewer fans, which I'm all about.

Exactly. Maybe I can compare them; currently, the rig is dead as the motherboard died. After the RMA & delidding the CPU, I'll update this thread with results from both orientations: front-mount intake or top-mount exhaust.

Do you have any 140mm recommendations for under 900RPM? I'll likely pull at least one of the AF140s for dedicated GPU VRAM/VRM cooling.

From what I heard, at low RPMs, most fans perform pretty closely, but the Noctua 140s / Thermalright 140s are the top of the bunch--from what I've read.
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For 140mm around 900 rpm, I recommend the Thermalright X-Silent 140 or the be quiet! Silent Wings 2. On the other Overclockers, I did a review with the title, "15 Case Fans Tested: Ultimate 140 mm Roundup." Of the all, I prefer the Thermalright, but I use two Noctua NF-A14 ULN fans for intake. They don't push the most air, but they were about the quietest. The Enermax was a candidate too. For details, see the review.

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For 140mm around 900 rpm, I recommend the Thermalright X-Silent 140 or the be quiet! Silent Wings 2. On the other Overclockers, I did a review with the title, "15 Case Fans Tested: Ultimate 140 mm Roundup." Of the all, I prefer the Thermalright, but I use two Noctua NF-A14 ULN fans for intake. They don't push the most air, but they were about the quietest. The Enermax was a candidate too. For details, see the review.

Oh, awesome, thank you. I just found it. Just to clarify, the "x2" means this is the second sample of the fan? Some of them have a massive variance; my poor pick of the P14s-900 shows a 7db difference between the first fan and the "fan x2".
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For 140mm around 900 rpm, I recommend the Thermalright X-Silent 140 or the be quiet! Silent Wings 2. On the other Overclockers, I did a review with the title, "15 Case Fans Tested: Ultimate 140 mm Roundup." Of the all, I prefer the Thermalright, but I use two Noctua NF-A14 ULN fans for intake. They don't push the most air, but they were about the quietest. The Enermax was a candidate too. For details, see the review.

Oh, awesome, thank you. I just found it. Just to clarify, the "x2" means this is the second sample of the fan? Some of them have a massive variance; my poor pick of the P14s-900 shows a 7db difference between the first fan and the "fan x2".


No. The second fan in a series is #2. fan x2 means two fans of that model. In my next review I am a little more clear about that. The first line of each set is the fan's spec. The second line is what I measured. Where you see "x2" you are looking at the average of two fans."


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This ought to be more instructive:

 

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