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It's not really marketing strategy tbh, it's just each year the competition falls a little further behind allowing nvidia to get away with more.

Well AMD is certainly helping Nvidia, but Nvidia has to "exploit" AMDs failure to compete in the high end segment.

Marketing strategy may have been an inappropriate word for me to use in that scenario. Maybe adapt to competition would've been more fitting.
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post #102 of 956
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Look at the quote, it's a rhetorical question
Im sorry frown.gif
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post #103 of 956
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So, 1080Ti just a 25% upgrade of 1080 for 899$ confirmed?
Diminishing returns bro
post #104 of 956
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It's not really marketing strategy tbh, it's just each year the competition falls a little further behind allowing nvidia to get away with more.

It is both in my opinion. You are definitely right in that AMD being no where in sight pretty much allows Nvidia to do what they want. However, the whole Titan branding was a marketing strategy that is working. They touted these cards as halo cards even though they were nothing new. Before the Titan, we had the GTX 580. A GTX 580 and a GTX Titan X are the same card to their respective architectures and processes. Now that the Titan branding and marketing has soaked in for a couple gens, we are seeing $700 cards based on the small chips. And people are lapping it up.
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post #105 of 956
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It's not really marketing strategy tbh, it's just each year the competition falls a little further behind allowing nvidia to get away with more.

People are becoming more and more willing to disregard price, and go for pure performance. AMD has usually been pretty good at price/performance, but Nvidia has usually beat them outright in performance (At least in the last few gens, and longevity notwithstanding)
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$1499 at least.
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post #107 of 956
1750 is my vote because NVIDIA has no shame biggrin.gif.
 
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Are you really comparing a card that is aimed at the mainstream market (RX 480) with Vega? RX 480 has GDDR5, while Vega will have HBM2 and be a bigger die.

AMD-Vega-10-Polaris-10-Polaris-11-Feature-635x345.jpg
but does that Vega die look big enough to you to go against 1080Ti ? redface.gif

granted its a Vega10, not Vega 11

but Vega will still take some of Polaris tech, as well as its 14nm GLoFo (as far as I know) .. and that we can already judge from the 480


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And then a 1080Ti launches a month or two later and performs within a margin of error of the Titan for only 2/3 the price.
yes, ppl knew all that when Titan X released too .. and they still bought those Titan Xs

I think with Vega it's the other way around, so that would mean that Vega 11 would be the big chip and Vega 10 the cut down one.


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Also, your argument is pretty bad. That's like saying we can judge the 980Ti's performance from the 780...right? Since it's both 28nm? biggrin.gifthumb.gif
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Are you really comparing a card that is aimed at the mainstream market (RX 480) with Vega? RX 480 has GDDR5, while Vega will have HBM2 and be a bigger die.


AMD-Vega-10-Polaris-10-Polaris-11-Feature-635x345.jpg

read my post again. I said it's unlikely that RX480 -> RX490 is a 3 times performance increase. If I am wrong and VEGA RX490 is 3 times as fast as Polaris RX480 then I will apologize to you personally thumb.gif

I never compared them directly I simply said what I said again above. Please don't put words in my mouth. Thank you.

Didn't want to offend you mate, just sayin' that Vega will be a whole other beast and we don't know anything besides that it has a bigger die and HBM2, and that it's a card aimed at the enthusiast market. So no use in guessing the performance of it or writing it off prematurely thumb.gif.

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So, 1080Ti just a 25% upgrade of 1080 for 899$ confirmed?
how do you figure ?

the OP says Titan P = 50% over 1080

that, if true, would make 1080Ti 40%+ over 1080

Yeah, actually the Ti versions always released after the Titan right? Got that mixed up there. But yeah, you're correct. Also I just fished the 25% out of the water, we don't know biggrin.gif.
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I think with Vega it's the other way around, so that would mean that Vega 11 would be the big chip and Vega 10 the cut down one.
Didn't want to offend you mate, just sayin' that Vega will be a whole other beast and we don't know anything besides that it has a bigger die and HBM2, and that it's a card aimed at the enthusiast market. So no use in guessing the performance of it or writing it off prematurely thumb.gif.

It's allright. We will see "soon" how it turns out to be. My bet is that VEGA definitively can't contest GP102, but rather in the region around GTX1070-GTX1080.

If the RX480 was better it'd be a different story, but the reality is that a GTX 1080 is like 70% faster than a RX480. It will be damn hard for AMD to close that gap. frown.gif

There is simply no way I see VEGA10 RX490 being able to compete with GP102. It would also leave a huge gap between RX480 and RX490 where AMD has no card to offer.

If I had to take a guess :

RX490

GTX1070 +10% performance

399$-499$
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