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what if their "6950X = 6700K + Titan P" joke can hint at the price ?


~$1700 - $350 = $1300-1350 for Titan P ? rolleyes.gif
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I think with Vega it's the other way around, so that would mean that Vega 11 would be the big chip and Vega 10 the cut down one.
Didn't want to offend you mate, just sayin' that Vega will be a whole other beast and we don't know anything besides that it has a bigger die and HBM2, and that it's a card aimed at the enthusiast market. So no use in guessing the performance of it or writing it off prematurely thumb.gif.

It's allright. We will see "soon" how it turns out to be. My bet is that VEGA definitively can't contest GP102, but rather in the region around GTX1070-GTX1080.

If the RX480 was better it'd be a different story, but the reality is that a GTX 1080 is like 70% faster than a RX480. It will be damn hard for AMD to close that gap. frown.gif

There is simply no way I see VEGA10 RX490 being able to compete with GP102. It would also leave a huge gap between RX480 and RX490 where AMD has no card to offer.

If I had to take a guess :

RX490

GTX1070 +10% performance

399$-499$


Soon? Half a year or something is so long of a wait biggrin.gif.
Maybe you're right, but I really think it will have 1080+X% performance. I don't think not having anything other than the 4/8GB RX 480 is bad, AMD said themselves that that alone accounts for..~83% or something of the market. That leaves them with the rest of the enthusiast market.
And just because the RX 480 has "mainstream" performance, doesn't mean that Vega can't have good performance. It's a flagship card after all. That's like saying 980Ti can't have nice performance because 960 (a mainstream card that is on the same 28nm process) doesn't perform great. See what I mean? biggrin.gif

Edit: OCN messed quotes up.
Edited by Nestala - 7/5/16 at 6:42am
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Vega 10 should be in the 1070/1080 bracket and (the bigger) Vega 11 should be in the 1080Ti bracket

how it will be in reality we'll see
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what if their "6950X = 6700K + Titan P" joke can hint at the price ?


~$1700 - $350 = $1300-1350 for Titan P ? rolleyes.gif

Could very well be possible, at bit more expensive than the original Titan at 999$, and their recent pricing history shows that they slowly ramp up the price. So a new Titan in the 1300-1500$ range could very well be the price.

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Vega 10 should be in the 1070/1080 bracket and (the bigger) Vega 11 should be in the 1080Ti bracket

how it will be in reality we'll see

Exactly.
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Vega 10 should be in the 1070/1080 bracket and (the bigger) Vega 11 should be in the 1080Ti bracket

how it will be in reality we'll see

It is really confusing that Polaris11 is the small Polaris and Polaris10 is the big Polaris,
but VEGA10 is the small vega and VEGA11 is supposed to be the big VEGA?

headscratch.gif

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Soon? Half a year or something is so long of a wait biggrin.gif.
Maybe you're right, but I really think it will have 1080+X% performance. I don't think not having anything other than the 4/8GB RX 480 is bad, AMD said themselves that that alone accounts for..~83% or something of the market. That leaves them with the rest of the enthusiast market.
And just because the RX 480 has "mainstream" performance, doesn't mean that Vega can't have good performance. It's a flagship card after all. That's like saying 980Ti can't have nice performance because 960 (a mainstream card that is on the same 28nm process) doesn't perform great. See what I mean? biggrin.gif

Edit: OCN messed quotes up.

I see what you mean, but there is a lot of hope in there. I don't think the RX480 aligns the same with the RX490 as the GTX 960 alings with the GTX 980 Ti. Between the 960 and 980 Ti there are 2 cards that fill the gap, but what is supposed to be between the RX480 and RX490 ?

Maybe AMD is going the Fury route again. RX480 -> RX490 -> Fury-like 14nm card.
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Originally Posted by ChevChelios View Post

Vega 10 should be in the 1070/1080 bracket and (the bigger) Vega 11 should be in the 1080Ti bracket

how it will be in reality we'll see

It is really confusing that Polaris11 is the small Polaris and Polaris10 is the big Polaris,
but VEGA10 is the small vega and VEGA11 is supposed to be the big VEGA?

headscratch.gif

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Soon? Half a year or something is so long of a wait biggrin.gif.
Maybe you're right, but I really think it will have 1080+X% performance. I don't think not having anything other than the 4/8GB RX 480 is bad, AMD said themselves that that alone accounts for..~83% or something of the market. That leaves them with the rest of the enthusiast market.
And just because the RX 480 has "mainstream" performance, doesn't mean that Vega can't have good performance. It's a flagship card after all. That's like saying 980Ti can't have nice performance because 960 (a mainstream card that is on the same 28nm process) doesn't perform great. See what I mean? biggrin.gif

Edit: OCN messed quotes up.

I see what you mean, but there is a lot of hope in there. I don't think the RX480 aligns the same with the RX490 as the GTX 960 alings with the GTX 980 Ti. Between the 960 and 980 Ti there are 2 cards that fill the gap, but what is supposed to be between the RX480 and RX490 ?

Maybe AMD is going the Fury route again. RX480 -> RX490 -> Fury-like 14nm card.

The smaller version of Vega (wheather that is 10 or 11)?
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they dont have to release if AMD provides no competition.
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they dont have to release if AMD provides no competition.

If they have no competition they'll probably just take more time releasing it and price it higher.
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they dont have to release if AMD provides no competition.

Err........if they don't release they won't make more money.

Watch many OCN members sell their 1070/1080 for titans when released.

AMD competing won't stop this card coming out, it makes no sense. They will have a beast card they can tout as amazing 4K experience etc
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By the way @Waitng4realGPU, what is a "real GPU" for you? biggrin.gif
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