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This author apparently doesn't know the layout of GP100, despite having the block diagram officially release by NV, let me help him:

Ah good, that 2880 32-bit CUDA cores number doesn't sound right because that would be almost the same as a 1080.

It is hard to know, I am inclined to believe both GP100 and GP102 can be run on PCIe but I am leaning towards agreeing that the new Titan P and at least one Quadro will actually use GP102. Hard to be sure right now though. smile.gif
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Anyway here is what I can roughly estimate the specs and detail of the upcoming Titan.



Titan P 12G

Cores: 3584 CUDA
Base Clock: 1.5GHz+
Boost Clock: 1.6GHz+
FP32: 12 TFLOP
FP64: 380 GFLOP
Memory: 12GB HBM2
Bus Width: 3072 bits
Memory Bandwidth: 540 GB/s
TDP: 250W
MSRP: $999+

Others: Available as custom AiB


Titan P 16G

Cores: 3840 CUDA
Base Clock: 1.6GHz~
Boost Clock: 1.7GHz~
FP32: 13 TFLOP
FP64: 3.3 TFLOP
Memory: 16GB HBM2
Bus Width: 4096 bits
Memory Bandwidth: 720 GB/s
TDP: 300W
MSRP: $1399+

Others: Only as Founder Edition.


Should be around there, performance is estimated based on +50% delta of 1080 for the full flat titan.
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post #303 of 956
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Anyway here is what I can roughly estimate the specs and detail of the upcoming Titan.
Any estimates on 1080 Ti? tongue.gif
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post #304 of 956
If the historical price trend for Nvidia continues, where the "performance" Titan costs 3x more than the base X80 card, then I predict that Titan P will cost $2100

The cheaper titan will be $1800
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If the historical price trend for Nvidia continues, where the "performance" Titan costs 3x more than the base X80 card, then I predict that Titan P will cost $2100

The cheaper titan will be $1800


That is BS imho, since when the Titan is 3x the price of X80?

Its always been less than 2X the price of X80 or 3X the price of X70.


GTX 680 vs Titan = $499 vs $999
GTX 780 vs Titan Black = $649 vs $999
GTX 980 vs Titan X = $549 vs $999
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post #306 of 956
I doubt a titan at over 1000$ price tag.
Seems way overblown. I remember people claiming 1000$ 1080 so, I will take everything with a mountain of salt grains until the card is actually out.
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Ah good, that 2880 32-bit CUDA cores number doesn't sound right because that would be almost the same as a 1080.

It is hard to know, I am inclined to believe both GP100 and GP102 can be run on PCIe but I am leaning towards agreeing that the new Titan P and at least one Quadro will actually use GP102. Hard to be sure right now though. smile.gif


You know smth is not right when GP100 has almost twice as big die as GP104. 2880 cores on a die twice as big doesnt make sense.


anyway actual spec of GP100 can be found at NV devblog.
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I doubt a titan at over 1000$ price tag.



You forget Titan Z at $2999.



Also by having the 12GB Titan at $999, NV didnt really "flaunt" that rule.


Same case with Intel, we didnt expect their new 6950X to go way over $999. wink.gif
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You forget Titan Z at $2999.



Also by having the 12GB Titan at $999, NV didnt really "flaunt" that rule.


Same case with Intel, we didnt expect their new 6950X to go way over $999. wink.gif

I agree, I expect the 12GB Titan to be the one at $999, it makes sense too, e.g. Fury and Fury X. With two Titans this time, and the price of the 1080, there isn't a good price point for the 12GB Titan if the 16GB Titan is "only" $999.

I also admit I would quickly pay well over $999 for a 3840 core 1.8+ GHz Pascal with 16GB of HBM2... and Nvidia knows it. redface.gif
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I agree, I expect the 12GB Titan to be the one at $999, it makes sense too, e.g. Fury and Fury X. With two Titans this time, and the price of the 1080, there isn't a good price point for the 12GB Titan if the 16GB Titan is "only" $999.

I also admit I would quickly pay well over $999 for a 3840 core 1.8+ GHz Pascal with 16GB of HBM2... and Nvidia knows it. redface.gif


To top it off:


1) GP100 is bigger than GM200, meaning lesser chip per wafer, less usable yield.
2) 16nm FF is almost twice as expensive as 28nm
3) HBM2 is way more expensive than G5X which alr is higher price than GDDR5


If you expect the high end Titan to be $999, same as previous 28nm Titan, you need to get your head check. redface.gif
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