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I didn't think they have the supply of HBM2 to waste on variants with smaller differences like a 12GB & 16GB model.
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Anyone who thinks Nvidia will release the Titan in August or even this year is delusional. It will only be a reveal in August, having an engineering sample isn't the same as being ready for production. You could have an engineering sample ready a year before you mass produce them.

Also, the 1080 is barely out, and Nvidia knows that Vega will not come until at least October (and even that are only rumors), more likely is a Q1 release for Vega, same goes for the Titan.
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I didn't think they have the supply of HBM2 to waste on variants with smaller differences like a 12GB & 16GB model.

Well the problem is we have to assume that a 600 mm²+ die on 16nm is quite a large die to be producing when 16nm isn't even mature yet. So the yields on them aren't going to be great. They are going to have tons of dies that don't make the cut. They have to do something with them.
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Whoops, double. Please delete.
Edited by Eorzean - 7/6/16 at 2:00am
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NVIDIA is all about making money, if that means two Titans with different core amounts, memory sizes, and different prices by all means they will do it. NVIDIA has had some time to plan out how they want to do Big Die Pascal.

With Big Die Maxwell we only saw two GTX SKUs (980 Ti and Titan X).

Yet with Big Die Kepler we saw four (780, Titan, 780 Ti, Titan Black). Again with different Cuda Core counts and memory sizes.

NVIDIA could easily do the following:

GP102 Titan 16GB HBM - $1200 (August) - 50% over 1080
GP102 Titan 12GB HBM (slightly cut down) - $1000 (August) - 40% over 1080
GP102 1080 Ti 8GB G5X (even more cut down) - $800 (November) - 30% over 1080
That's making me want to hold off on getting a 1080 (was in the process of selling my 1070 to upgrade) and live with toning settings down until the Ti comes out. As nice as a 1080 Ti for only $100 more sounds, why would Nvidia give us a 30% jump in performance for only $100 more if there is no competition? As of right now, that 30% jump comes at a ~$320 premium. If they're only competing with themselves, I really don't see them giving us any performance freebies.
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Im one step ahead and instead of Titan P/Ti - Im waiting for Volta thumb.gif
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That's making me want to hold off on getting a 1080 (was in the process of selling my 1070 to upgrade) and live with toning settings down until the Ti comes out. As nice as a 1080 Ti for only $100 more sounds, why would Nvidia give us a 30% jump in performance for only $100 more if there is no competition? As of right now, that 30% jump comes at a ~$320 premium. If they're only competing with themselves, I really don't see them giving us any performance freebies.

Vega is supposed to launch in the Fall too (most recent rumor), so I'm guessing by then they might actually have some competition. AMD launched 3 SKUs with Polaris, so maybe we can expect 3 SKUs with Vega.

By then I imagine the $600 1080 will be in abundance, and the $380 1070 will be widely available. So realistically it will end up being for around $200 more. Which is how I priced my GP102 parts.
Edited by BiG StroOnZ - 7/6/16 at 2:03am
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Be prepared to spend 20% more for GPUs every year then. As long as AMD isn't level with Nvidia performance wise, the prices will keep rising. Once AMD is gone for good, people like yourself wont have a competitive brand to talk trash about, so I'd be hoping Vega does well if I were you.

Pretty much. Even the biggest nvidia fanboys out there should be praying AMD does well, for everyones sake.... Otherwise this is a visual representation as to the control Nvidia will have over gamers/market/pricing

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Vega is the hero we need
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Vega is supposed to launch in the Fall too (most recent rumor), so I'm guessing by then they might actually have some competition. AMD launched 3 SKUs with Polaris, so maybe we can expect 3 SKUs with Vega.

By then I imagine the $600 1080 will be in abundance, and the $380 1070 will be widely available. So realistically it will end up being for around $200 more. Which is how I priced my GP102 parts.

Hopefully Vega does come out in October and drives prices down across the board. What I really hope for is AMD to release something better than a 1080, at a better price... I'd jump ship in a heartbeat. I've been waiting for that opportunity for a long time though.
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Pretty much. Even the biggest nvidia fanboys out there should be praying AMD does well, for everyones sake.... Otherwise this is a visual representation as to the control Nvidia will have over gamers/market/pricing


LMAO. That pic brings "integrated" to a whole new level. Nvidia in the year 2027 2019.
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